@redweasel
Rediscovering the Elements was probably coincidental as well because UU Cel is probably a stoner… Or is she the Mare in the Moon and Luna the ruler of Equestria for one thousand years? I haven’t seen that much on the UU sisters, if at all. X3
@YetAnotherBrony Shrug Possibly that too, but what I meant is that they seem closer to gender-neutrality.
As in, making the original Mane 6 male (but having them keep their exact behaviors), in my opinion, would create a more ‘gender dissonant’ feel than doing so to these.
Or, to put it in a more relevant way: I feel cis males would more easily identify with these six than with the originals, even if they still seem on the female side of the scale.
If I say comic-writing is more androgynous than dressmaking, I don’t mean ‘no TRUE GIRL would ever write a comic-book!’, I instead mean ‘Comic-writing’s something all genders can do without being considered ‘unusual’, so it’s less about feminine/masculine, and more just a gender-neutral hobby/job/whatever’
If we’re going to include everything a ‘true woman’ is allowed to do under ‘feminine’, especially if we’re also going to treat women like human beings with individual personalities, the word kind of loses meaning - A label only has value as long as it discriminates in some way - so I’m going to keep using it to mean things that are more acceptable for females than for males, and ‘gender-neutral’ or ‘androgynous’ (depending on context) for things where gender/sex doesn’t matter.
Whether we should define ‘gender norms’ at all is a different question; The reality is that those norms are already defined, in practice if not in writing, even if the definitions shift over time.
@RighteousIndignayshun
Not just that they are the Mane 6, but it feels like they’re just as nicely balanced against each other too.
It’d be unsuitable for MLP, but an ‘older audience’ spin-off could easily use these characters for the same mix of adventure and ‘slice of life’ (just aimed at a teens-to-young-adult audience instead, so less Friendship is Magic, more Explosions are Awesome)
Feels more androgynous too - Regardless of if it’s a good show or not, I feel MLP is decidedly ‘girly’, both in terms of being terrified of making male characters important and in terms of trying to cater to what they think girls care about. These characters feel more balanced around a middle ground, even if they’re all still girls.
@Background Pony #0550
Yea, I’m really enjoying all the subtleties of them. You can still tell it’s the Mane 6, but it also shows how much different they are from their canon counterparts.
Oh, and how Stardust’s Mark has a star within a star like Twilight’s (except it’s a shooting star this time), or how Prism still has the three primary colors extending from a white shape like Rainbow.
It’s been awhile, hasn’t it?
AU_Twilight: BASH SKULLS WITH SPELLS
It’s always life.
Life got in the way on siden’s end, I think.
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Rediscovering the Elements was probably coincidental as well because UU Cel is probably a stoner… Or is she the Mare in the Moon and Luna the ruler of Equestria for one thousand years? I haven’t seen that much on the UU sisters, if at all. X3
that and reduce the amount of property damage in canterlot…
Prism was likely sent to Ponyville not to curb her antisocial behavior, but her overbearing ego. XD
Shrug Possibly that too, but what I meant is that they seem closer to gender-neutrality.
As in, making the original Mane 6 male (but having them keep their exact behaviors), in my opinion, would create a more ‘gender dissonant’ feel than doing so to these.
Or, to put it in a more relevant way: I feel cis males would more easily identify with these six than with the originals, even if they still seem on the female side of the scale.
If I say comic-writing is more androgynous than dressmaking, I don’t mean ‘no TRUE GIRL would ever write a comic-book!’, I instead mean ‘Comic-writing’s something all genders can do without being considered ‘unusual’, so it’s less about feminine/masculine, and more just a gender-neutral hobby/job/whatever’
If we’re going to include everything a ‘true woman’ is allowed to do under ‘feminine’, especially if we’re also going to treat women like human beings with individual personalities, the word kind of loses meaning - A label only has value as long as it discriminates in some way - so I’m going to keep using it to mean things that are more acceptable for females than for males, and ‘gender-neutral’ or ‘androgynous’ (depending on context) for things where gender/sex doesn’t matter.
Whether we should define ‘gender norms’ at all is a different question; The reality is that those norms are already defined, in practice if not in writing, even if the definitions shift over time.
I wouldn’t care what direction they went with this, I’d still watch it.
It has a very “modern girl” feel to it; today’s femininity has evolved in many ways, all different, yet all distinctly female.
Not just that they are the Mane 6, but it feels like they’re just as nicely balanced against each other too.
It’d be unsuitable for MLP, but an ‘older audience’ spin-off could easily use these characters for the same mix of adventure and ‘slice of life’ (just aimed at a teens-to-young-adult audience instead, so less Friendship is Magic, more Explosions are Awesome)
Feels more androgynous too - Regardless of if it’s a good show or not, I feel MLP is decidedly ‘girly’, both in terms of being terrified of making male characters important and in terms of trying to cater to what they think girls care about. These characters feel more balanced around a middle ground, even if they’re all still girls.
Yea, I’m really enjoying all the subtleties of them. You can still tell it’s the Mane 6, but it also shows how much different they are from their canon counterparts.
Also, she’s probably more accurate, too. (Twilight doesn’t have a very good aim, I’ve noticed!)
Oh, and how Stardust’s Mark has a star within a star like Twilight’s (except it’s a shooting star this time), or how Prism still has the three primary colors extending from a white shape like Rainbow.