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@martianmister
I’m pretty sure they have two building on the property, one that’s an actual barn and their house that’s fashioned after one. Unless there’s some impossible space shenanigans going on, their home can’t also be a barn.

See how in The Last Round Up and Party of One you can see the interior of the barn up to the ceiling, and there’s no second story windows or anything else inside there other than barn stuff.

Admittedly they call the house a barn during Apple Family Reunion, so it might indeed be a case of impossible space / artists not talking to other people and designing things without planning.
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Stop fucking with the tags.

I haven’t read the issue and I don’t care to read the issue. What I do know, from watching the damn show, is that there are at least two barn-like buildings on the Apple estate; the one that’s a house, and the other one (being the one cows live in / Dash nuked / was destroyed and rebuilt by the clan).

There’s drama and there’s ~drama~.
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@martianmister
Curnow is wrong about it
I gotta ask— have you watched the cartoon?
The barns and the house have the same external frame. They do not have the same interior.

Here’s the ground floor of a barn:

…Notice how you can see all the way across from one side to the other, window to window?

Now here’s the kitchen/dining room area from window to window, seen from the center of the room in two different directions, with a windowed exterior door on one side and an interior door on the other:

Look at the wall paneling through the interior door. It leads to the living room area.

…Which also has an exterior dutch door, brown inside and out, on the opposite end of the house.


Here’s what the doors at either end of the barns look like:

…Notice how the barn has a double door at one end, and the dutch door at the other is painted red inside and out?

TL;DR: You’re just wrong, man. The barns and the house look similar from the outside, but are completely different on the inside.
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Hey martianmister, if you’re going to keep tagging this "op has a point", please explain what that point is in light of the preceding comments, especially the profusely-illustrated one by TUA. Thanks.
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You people are trippin’ more balls than the pit at Dashcon; on 18th-19th Century farms it was absolutely a common feature to have the barn and the house be built on more or less the same kind of frame, because it greatly simplified construction under conditions where you had to have a family reunion to get any major construction work done, and once you learn how to build a structure that works there’s no need to change much up. There are houses, barns, and churches all over the Gulf Coast that look like ship hulls on the inside, for example, because hey!, turns out shipbuilders could make perfectly good landbound structures using the skills they already had. The Southron Gothic branch of my family had a barn that was converted into a house and one into a schoolhouse— and more than one house converted into a barn— because the open floorplans and large porches common to homes in the days before air conditioning also lent themselves well to barn designs.

Here’s what the ground floor of one of the barns looks like on the inside:


And here are the dining room, kitchen, and living room on the ground floor of the house:



Here are the rafters and hayloft at the top of one of the barns:


And here are Applejack, Apple Bloom, and Big Macintosh’s bedrooms on the second storey:


Any-a y’all who are mocking Curnow because you honestly think these are the same structures, I gotta ask— have you watched the cartoon?
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Yeah… honestly, that doesn’t make a lot of sense. Sure, their house might be a remodeled barn (or resemble one), but that doesn’t exclude the possibility of another barn where animals are housed. Housing farm animals and people (or sentient ponies) in the same building strikes me as a rather bad idea. Wouldn’t that be, at least, awfully smelly?

If there is really only one barn, that also functions as house, then this would also mean that the Apples are homeless every time it is destroyed. Most notably in "Lesson Zero" where it intentionally gets demolished.

Sure enough, the barn in this episode looks totally different (destruction aside). More like an actual barn and much less like a house: >>150909

There might be inconsistency about it in the show. However, that’s probably a "depending on writer" thing. They can’t even keep the characterization of the main characters straight, do you really think they care so much about details like the exact appearance of the character’s places?
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That’s what I thought, too. Even if there hadn’t been one before, AJ raised a new barn in Too Many Pinkies (and not to replace one that had been destroyed, as has happened before and since.) So there are at least two barns at the farm, possibly more.
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Having re-watched the relevant parts of "Party of One" and "Apple Family Reunion", I’m convinced that Sweet Apple Acres has multiple barns: one (or more) traditional barns like the one where they held Pinkie Pie’s birthday party, and one house/barn with multiple rooms in which the family actually lives. So, was the barn that was burned down in the middle of the night in the comic a structure in which the farm’s family lived, or a storage structure for hay, crops, and supplies?
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To be fair if they do live in the barn (and there aren’t multiple ones) then the majority of the fandom also makes this same mistake.
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If Curnow is mistaken here, I think he can be forgiven for making the logical assumption that the Apple house and farm are two different buildings. We’ve seen that the inside of the barn is pretty big, and have been able to see the second floor from the bottom floor. That leaves very little room for the kitchen, bedrooms, living room, etc. Not to mention that it is typical of a farm to have the house and barn be different buildings.
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