Unpopular opinion time (super alpha no pony edition)

@Khamzat Chimaev
Their is a couple of problems people aren’t yet realizing because they’re not artist. They’re worthless people who don’t respect art, and wouldn’t buy it anyway so I don’t care. AI artist are like someone who thinks they’re an engineer because they learned how to read a ruler.

I’m studying the limitations to learn how to not only market around AI, but use AI to an advantage in my art.

It is very hard to control AI, it only understands keywords, and limited intructions.

AI cannot fix or modify work it has already created. It doesn’t actually understand all the objects in the work, just the average of what they might look like.

AI cannot make the same character over and over again in different poses. It doesn’t actually understand the idea of a character that stays consistant. When used for comics, the character will radically transform every time, because every pose requires a whole new pool of input data.

The closer AI comes to actually understanding a subject, rather than mashing together averages, the more power intensive and expensive it becomes. The AI that can actually do hands and faces will come out, it will be way more expensive and slow.

It might be able to make your OC once, if somehow it had a large pool of handmade art for your OC. You won’t have any control on the pose, and limited control on the context. Someone tried to get an AI fetish picture of a pony, ofc the AI picks the green anon pony, and doesn’t draw the fetish right because there isn’t enough example data.

It can produce highly detailed gems, but it will never be exactly what it’s in your head, or unique. You can claim rights over an AI peice (legally dubious) and someone else will generate a similar or even identical piece.

The beautiful art is does make are one offs. You can’t get more of the same character, or the same scene. You can’t make a comic or anime in 30 seconds like the people who don’t understand art or AI are claiming.

Only amateur artist that don’t know the application of art are scared of it. AI art will always look like Deviantart on adder al, and nothing more.

Artists needs to stop hating on requests.

@Hollowfox The Worst
I mean, artist need money like everyone else and people are quick to try to scam them.

@Hollowfox The Worst
Is “hate” the right word there?

@Hollowfox The Worst
Art is when someone is free to create their own image.

Making someone elses image is Art-WORK

Society already doesn’t respect artist, free work is like giving our blood to a black hole. AI art shows us that society is completely ready to throw artist under the bus and tell them they’re worthless.

Why would anyone make free art? It only harbors continual disrespect towards artist. In fact the lower my prices are, the less the customer respects me. I actually quit doing art as work completely, and definitely won’t do request. I’m getting a job people actually respect, and just drawing for me and my GF.

Fuck request. Request are for armature artist living with their parents. Every other bit of work in this world cost money.

Just use AI. AI is pretty damn good for a hobbyist despite everything i said.

@Beth
Doesn’t the AI uses other people’s work to create it’s own?

@Hollowfox The Worst

@Meanlucario
Arguably so does everyone. I have mountains of peoples work for inspiration, as long as i’m not tracing it or copying their characters, or stepping on their toes who’s going to know or care?

Now I don’t care if people raise ethical concerns about AI. I could use it or not use it. If people want to legally constrain AI, my job is still uneffected. As I said, the people who think AI can replace an artist aren’t willing to pay an artist anyway.

However ethics doesn’t really apply to someone using the AI for their own amusement, even if it was sold (GL) it can’t really effectively capture another persons work. Another persons work is probably like 1 in a million images it uses, all the original soul, and intended purpose is gone.

AI can’t just trace a scene or steal your characters, or even copy your style. Amateur artist are actually rallying against AI simply because they’re afraid of it, even though it is much less capable of blatant theft than a real human artist.

I’m not worried about protecting my work from the machine. It won’t be able to create my style, my style would arguably corrupt it lmao.

To beat AI, or to get what you want out of it, you must understand its limitations. Which still requires a real artist for anything past creepy memes, and beautiful elaborate testaments to nothing.

The people who will be effected the most, are people whos work is already a drop in the bucket, like generic looking anime and furry. People who already don’t know how to or don’t want to navigate and stand out in a market.

@Hollowfox The Worst
That’s a bad take

Also there are artists out there who are willing to do requests (I’m friends with few) but they won’t do it of you give them that attitude

@Hollowfox The Worst
Maybe if people would stop demanding free art from them…..

I don’t get the Shrek is Love joke (don’t look that up). I mean Shrek is the last guy to act like some weird crazy psycho. This sounds like a joke made by someone who never even watched Shrek. What’s the joke?

@Beth
Nobody likes AI, let alone for stealing art from other people. And I would be happy to pay for expensive commissions if A) I wasn’t autistic and instead be a normal person who isn’t stuck at home and doesn’t mind doing anything else other than my interests and/or B) my parents don’t care if I waste 50 dollars or less whether I get a job or not.

@icicle wicicle 1517
But not everyone does requests.

@Mr.Myoozik
Only if people always say that they don’t do requests and force people to waste money on commissions when people suck at drawing or don’t know how to draw the same art style as any of their favorite shows.

And before anyone says “take art classes”, no art class can help you emulate the same art style as Dana Terrace or Lauren Faust or even your favorite mangaka.

@Meanlucario
But does it justify overpricing commissions from 15 to 100 dollars?

@Hollowfox The Worst
I mean, you are paying them to do the work for you. You aren’t just paying for the art (if that was the case, you would just draw it yourself).

@Hollowfox The Worst
Then find artists who DO tak requests, they are not that hard to come by :/

Also if money is an issue then it’s best to find artists within your price range if you are worried that something costs too much

@Meanlucario
Again, does it justify overpricing to the point of being forced to waste the money my parents force me to save?

Because if I waste 50 dollars on a commission I want, my parents will be mad.

@Hollowfox The Worst
Maybe they see themselves as underselling their skills due to the effort they put in and people they have to put up with. It’s all about perspective.

@Hollowfox The Worst
If its the cost then find someone within your price range for it instead over overspending :v

@Hollowfox The Worst
That means you don’t have the money for art.

I myself cannot afford for other people to draw for me, and I don’t ask for it. I’m not impressed by your stance.

If you want free art yourself, start trying to make it, other artist will emphasize with you. Or you can find a desperate artist willing to draw for 10-20$

“why doesn’t someone give me a free car or clean my house for free? my parents don’t give me enough”

You’re parents give you money?! I have to pay my mom to live here, and never had an allowance in my life.

You’re not entitled to something because your broke. Join the destitutes like the rest of us.

@Background Pony #967B
It just spawned from a video that’s meant to be shocking

@Hollowfox The Worst
I still think you’re using the wrong term for that

Yeah, because not every artist can afford to do a high quality art piece for free. Most of them rely on commissions to make a living.

That’s like asking Kira Buckland to take a couple of hours out of her busy day to read/record your fanfic, and expecting her to do it for free. If you want free art that badly, just enter any raffles that the artists might do.

@Mr.Myoozik
What’s the right term for it then?

@Hollowfox The Worst
Dude.

Please.

Read the room.

@Hollowfox The Worst
Oh I don’t know, “dislike”, “don’t want to do”, “don’t like it”, take your pick

Can we just go back to our regularly scheduled unpopular opinions?