Another Cringe Thread About Bronies in General. (Possibly NSFW)
GrimDarkSurvivor 
G.D.S is approaching!
When does it take a large audience of fans to realize they don’t control how a show is and should end?
🐴 
IRL 🎠 stallion
@GrimDarkSurvivor
They are still delusional enough to believe that social media protests, petitions, and activism have any chance of causing a change in the real world.
They are still delusional enough to believe that social media protests, petitions, and activism have any chance of causing a change in the real world.
Latecomer
@PUBLIQclopAccountant
Sometimes they do. You just need a whole lot more people and a reasonably attainable goal - and this has neither.
Sometimes they do. You just need a whole lot more people and a reasonably attainable goal - and this has neither.
Background Pony #B04C
@Latecomer
Yes it is. He’s used his real name in public online circles before, most notably on Equestria Daily prior to getting banned from there (after which he created another account under the Mixmaster226 username).
Yes it is. He’s used his real name in public online circles before, most notably on Equestria Daily prior to getting banned from there (after which he created another account under the Mixmaster226 username).
Panko Pai 
Shy gamer stallion
I have one guy obsessed with me so much he used a photo of my IRL face for his trivial poll…
I’m literally shaking with fear.
I’m literally shaking with fear.
Icicle Niceicle 1517 
Ocs,Boops,Tickles&Memes
More funny then cringe, but…
Drug gangs in Chile are now using a ponified version of a university mascot for their delivery packaging
Drug gangs in Chile are now using a ponified version of a university mascot for their delivery packaging
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IRL 🎠 stallion
@icey wicey 1517
I’m surprised no one had uploaded that image directly to this site.
I’m surprised no one had uploaded that image directly to this site.
Kolbjorn
Banana
@icey wicey 1517
@PUBLIQclopAccountant
The weirdest part is that it isn’t a mascot from an chilean university, but a mexican one. Also is a donkey, not a pony
@PUBLIQclopAccountant
The weirdest part is that it isn’t a mascot from an chilean university, but a mexican one. Also is a donkey, not a pony
lonewolf 
U mad?
@Alphamon_Ouryuken
OMG he made a Gofundme for the campaign and he doxxed himself on it. He removed it but the damage is probably already done. He says he’s going to be less confrontational this time, but will block and report anyone who “harasses” them.
OMG he made a Gofundme for the campaign and he doxxed himself on it. He removed it but the damage is probably already done. He says he’s going to be less confrontational this time, but will block and report anyone who “harasses” them.
Egil
screaming forever
@Alphamon_Ouryuken
That’s what happens when a forgotten cemetery has more of a life than you.
That’s what happens when a forgotten cemetery has more of a life than you.
Vivace 
“ShimSham my GlimGlams”
Is it because he’s cringe-worthy himself? Because for someone else, that’s no worse than human-on-(sapient-)pony sex.
Pulse Wave
I can see several reasons for this.
For one, the first thing the bronydom encountered along with the non-brony outside world was backlash. Hatred. Prejudices. Check pony threads at non-pony message boards from the early 2010s or YouTube comments under pony videos from the early years, and you’ll see the haters easily outnumbering the bronies. The farther you go back in the fandom’s history, the more bronies will be closet ones.
So what did the bronies expect to encounter if they dumped all their fanfic on Fanfiction.net? The same. The very same. They didn’t even trust AO3, inclusive as it may be. Either that, or they didn’t want to risk the bad rep coming with making “that fanfic archive with all those pedo fics” that AO3 is known as their main fanfic archive.
Besides, the bronies didn’t fit in anywhere, and they still don’t. Pony isn’t manga/anime. Pony isn’t science-fiction/fantasy (where “fantasy” means Tolkien et al; anthro/animals + fantasy = furry and not fantasy). Bronies don’t want pony to be furry, and neither do furries. I’ll come back to that.
So they couldn’t use existing more specialised sites. The only thing they could do to preserve their fan works from going under with pony threads on /co/ being saged or living in the darkness that was the fans’ private hard drives was to create their own infrastructure of sites for fan works. Nobody would complain about the “deluge of pony crap” there. A side-effect of this was that bronies who were looking for pony fan works wouldn’t have to wade through tons of non-pony to get their pony fix. At least this must have been the motivation behind FiMfiction.
As for our own boorus: Boorus have never really been mostly places where artists uploaded their works. They’ve always lived on people carrying together images from other sources so you could have them in one place instead of having to visit several and take an extra effort to only get to see the content you’re looking for (Tumblr, dA, FurAffinity, Pixiv, 4chan etc. pp. in the case of pony). This is also why boorus are always specialised.
This specialisation makes sense because it makes it easier to find stuff. A big problem is always material that can barely be found or filtered out because its creators or uploaders can neither be bothered to write descriptions that could be searched nor add the necessary tags. (We’re on Derpibooru here, I guess most of you know how utterly undertagged many pictures are even here.) Now go find pony on dA without searching for specific artists. Or imagine looking for pony on some manga/anime booru if every other pony pic doesn’t have one single tag that says it’s pony.
Now I come to the main reason why the bronies didn’t simply use already existing image boards: Pony was something entirely new. Pony doesn’t really fit in anywhere that’s got a significant fansite infrastructure.
Why not e621? Why not existing manga/anime boorus? Because pony is neither manga nor anime. It doesn’t fit in. These image boards specialise in a very special kind of 2-D art from Japan. Its users won’t take a flood of Flash-animated horses from Canada kindly. And it doesn’t matter that pony is inspired by Powerpuff Girls whicn in turn are inspired by anime.
Why not furry sites? Because let’s face it: Many bronies firmly deny that pony is furry. And so do many furries. There are bronies who don’t want pony to be lumped together with “yiffers and furfags”, and there are furries who want to keep pony out of their fandom because they still find “grown-ass men who like little ponies for girls” sick. It’s a wonder that FurAffinity tolerates pony.
Why not existing pre-FiM MLP fan sites? Because the pre-FiM MLP fans are almost exclusively referred to as “collectors” because that’s what they are. An estimated more than 90% of their creativity is customs. Their fansite infrastructure is geared towards collecting pony toys from all generations rather than fan creativity. They don’t have their own image boards because they don’t make fan art, full stop. Not to mention the bidirectional animosity between collectors and bronies in the early years.
In general, the only genre-wide, franchise-independent fandoms with dumping places for fan works of their own are manga/anime, furry, science-fiction and fantasy. Pony doesn’t fit into either of them.
Western animation that isn’t strictly speaking furry doesn’t have any of this because it has been split into source-specific fandoms from the time when this became feasible, and that was in the mid-90s when the World Wide Web itself came up, if not earlier. For example, there was an overarching Disney Afternoon fandom in the late 80s/early 90s which only existed on the Usenet and in a fanzine printed on dead tree. By 1995, when possibilities showed up to run private websites, they also made it possible to make websites dedicated not to the Disney Afternoon itself but to specific shows. And when forums came up, each show got at least one forum dedicated to only itself.
These early fandoms still mostly live on good old forums. They post their fanfics on forums (thus ending the tradition of publishing them on static fan sites or on the Usenet), they hotlink their fan art on forums, they discuss show and fan stuff on the same forums. That’s what they’ve always done. They’ve hardly ever really needed places to gather their fanfics or their fan art because they’ve always had their forums for that.
More recent fandoms, i.e. fandoms born in times when the Web 2.0 or even social media were already available (the tipping point must have been around Kim Possible), are as isolated as the old ones. They had the means for self-isolation at hand right away, and with the possibilities given to them by search engines, early social media and existing forums for whichever topics, it was much easier to gather fans and join them all in the same places (“Hey, you’re a fan of $SHOW? We’ve got a fan forum, y’know! Wanna join?”) than in the 90s.
The only overarching western animation fansite I know of is the Animation Source. And what a surprise, that’s a forum. With subforums for specific shows. It was mostly created as a home for fan communities that lacked their own forums. (It has a brony subforum, too, but there doesn’t seem to be much happening.)
So AFAIK there’s no general western animation booru (change my mind). Even if there was one, I’m not sure if would accept all the smut that comes from this fandom.
Last but not least, the bronydom never considered using pre-existing fan sites necessary. By the time creativity really kicked in, the fandom was big enough to be 100% self-sufficient. Not only did it soon have its own fanfic archive and its own booru, but its own board on 4chan, several entire *chans of its own, sites for fan music (I mean, which fandoms have fan music archives of their own) and even web radio stations followed. We never needed to hijack any other fandom’s archives for our purposes. It actually seems like Derpibooru outclasses some manga/anime boorus in terms of numbers of uploaded images, and all this comes from only one single show that started in late 2010 instead of an entire genre that has been around since even before 1990.
The bronydom never needed any other fandom’s help because it grew big enough quickly enough. And it was too proud of its enormous growth and that of its creativity, it was too proud of being able to have everything of its own, that it never even considered such help.
Seriously, the Galapagos Syndrome isn’t all about pony. Any fandom that reaches a critical mass will create its own fan site infrastructure, possibly even with its own archives for creative works.
Busy procrastinating
Just had to reply on this. I’ve been in this fandom for long enough, joined less than a year after it came to exist, and I’ve seen this phenomenon from the perspective of an animation fandom on the other end of the fandom size scale which, however, is much older.
@PUBLIQclopAccountant
@PUBLIQclopAccountant
@doloresbridge
If I had saved it, there was a Reddit essay about how bronies are a case of Galapagos syndrome when it comes to fandoms. The origins were neither from the older SF/F or furry fandoms nor were there any shared origins with the general TV/movie fandoms most associated with Tumblr idiocy.Think of all the pony-only independent fandom institutions:
- Instead of AO3 or Fanfiction.net, we almost exclusively use FiMfic
- Rather than being a notable presence on e621 or any of the countless anime/hentai boorus, we’re here on Derpi
- Many pony redditors only stick to pony subs
I can see several reasons for this.
For one, the first thing the bronydom encountered along with the non-brony outside world was backlash. Hatred. Prejudices. Check pony threads at non-pony message boards from the early 2010s or YouTube comments under pony videos from the early years, and you’ll see the haters easily outnumbering the bronies. The farther you go back in the fandom’s history, the more bronies will be closet ones.
So what did the bronies expect to encounter if they dumped all their fanfic on Fanfiction.net? The same. The very same. They didn’t even trust AO3, inclusive as it may be. Either that, or they didn’t want to risk the bad rep coming with making “that fanfic archive with all those pedo fics” that AO3 is known as their main fanfic archive.
Besides, the bronies didn’t fit in anywhere, and they still don’t. Pony isn’t manga/anime. Pony isn’t science-fiction/fantasy (where “fantasy” means Tolkien et al; anthro/animals + fantasy = furry and not fantasy). Bronies don’t want pony to be furry, and neither do furries. I’ll come back to that.
So they couldn’t use existing more specialised sites. The only thing they could do to preserve their fan works from going under with pony threads on /co/ being saged or living in the darkness that was the fans’ private hard drives was to create their own infrastructure of sites for fan works. Nobody would complain about the “deluge of pony crap” there. A side-effect of this was that bronies who were looking for pony fan works wouldn’t have to wade through tons of non-pony to get their pony fix. At least this must have been the motivation behind FiMfiction.
As for our own boorus: Boorus have never really been mostly places where artists uploaded their works. They’ve always lived on people carrying together images from other sources so you could have them in one place instead of having to visit several and take an extra effort to only get to see the content you’re looking for (Tumblr, dA, FurAffinity, Pixiv, 4chan etc. pp. in the case of pony). This is also why boorus are always specialised.
This specialisation makes sense because it makes it easier to find stuff. A big problem is always material that can barely be found or filtered out because its creators or uploaders can neither be bothered to write descriptions that could be searched nor add the necessary tags. (We’re on Derpibooru here, I guess most of you know how utterly undertagged many pictures are even here.) Now go find pony on dA without searching for specific artists. Or imagine looking for pony on some manga/anime booru if every other pony pic doesn’t have one single tag that says it’s pony.
Now I come to the main reason why the bronies didn’t simply use already existing image boards: Pony was something entirely new. Pony doesn’t really fit in anywhere that’s got a significant fansite infrastructure.
Why not e621? Why not existing manga/anime boorus? Because pony is neither manga nor anime. It doesn’t fit in. These image boards specialise in a very special kind of 2-D art from Japan. Its users won’t take a flood of Flash-animated horses from Canada kindly. And it doesn’t matter that pony is inspired by Powerpuff Girls whicn in turn are inspired by anime.
Why not furry sites? Because let’s face it: Many bronies firmly deny that pony is furry. And so do many furries. There are bronies who don’t want pony to be lumped together with “yiffers and furfags”, and there are furries who want to keep pony out of their fandom because they still find “grown-ass men who like little ponies for girls” sick. It’s a wonder that FurAffinity tolerates pony.
Why not existing pre-FiM MLP fan sites? Because the pre-FiM MLP fans are almost exclusively referred to as “collectors” because that’s what they are. An estimated more than 90% of their creativity is customs. Their fansite infrastructure is geared towards collecting pony toys from all generations rather than fan creativity. They don’t have their own image boards because they don’t make fan art, full stop. Not to mention the bidirectional animosity between collectors and bronies in the early years.
In general, the only genre-wide, franchise-independent fandoms with dumping places for fan works of their own are manga/anime, furry, science-fiction and fantasy. Pony doesn’t fit into either of them.
Western animation that isn’t strictly speaking furry doesn’t have any of this because it has been split into source-specific fandoms from the time when this became feasible, and that was in the mid-90s when the World Wide Web itself came up, if not earlier. For example, there was an overarching Disney Afternoon fandom in the late 80s/early 90s which only existed on the Usenet and in a fanzine printed on dead tree. By 1995, when possibilities showed up to run private websites, they also made it possible to make websites dedicated not to the Disney Afternoon itself but to specific shows. And when forums came up, each show got at least one forum dedicated to only itself.
These early fandoms still mostly live on good old forums. They post their fanfics on forums (thus ending the tradition of publishing them on static fan sites or on the Usenet), they hotlink their fan art on forums, they discuss show and fan stuff on the same forums. That’s what they’ve always done. They’ve hardly ever really needed places to gather their fanfics or their fan art because they’ve always had their forums for that.
More recent fandoms, i.e. fandoms born in times when the Web 2.0 or even social media were already available (the tipping point must have been around Kim Possible), are as isolated as the old ones. They had the means for self-isolation at hand right away, and with the possibilities given to them by search engines, early social media and existing forums for whichever topics, it was much easier to gather fans and join them all in the same places (“Hey, you’re a fan of $SHOW? We’ve got a fan forum, y’know! Wanna join?”) than in the 90s.
The only overarching western animation fansite I know of is the Animation Source. And what a surprise, that’s a forum. With subforums for specific shows. It was mostly created as a home for fan communities that lacked their own forums. (It has a brony subforum, too, but there doesn’t seem to be much happening.)
So AFAIK there’s no general western animation booru (change my mind). Even if there was one, I’m not sure if would accept all the smut that comes from this fandom.
Last but not least, the bronydom never considered using pre-existing fan sites necessary. By the time creativity really kicked in, the fandom was big enough to be 100% self-sufficient. Not only did it soon have its own fanfic archive and its own booru, but its own board on 4chan, several entire *chans of its own, sites for fan music (I mean, which fandoms have fan music archives of their own) and even web radio stations followed. We never needed to hijack any other fandom’s archives for our purposes. It actually seems like Derpibooru outclasses some manga/anime boorus in terms of numbers of uploaded images, and all this comes from only one single show that started in late 2010 instead of an entire genre that has been around since even before 1990.
The bronydom never needed any other fandom’s help because it grew big enough quickly enough. And it was too proud of its enormous growth and that of its creativity, it was too proud of being able to have everything of its own, that it never even considered such help.
Seriously, the Galapagos Syndrome isn’t all about pony. Any fandom that reaches a critical mass will create its own fan site infrastructure, possibly even with its own archives for creative works.
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