Cartoon/Western Animation General

From Tex Avery’s Bugs Bunny to independents like this,  
We discuss the shows, styles, characters, and tropes found in all matter of cartoons from all over, excluding straightforward anime (an anime general already exists); cartoons inspired by anime like Avatar are welcome.
 
To start let’s discuss Nick’s, Disney’s, and CN’s own “teen with secret life of monster fighting” action shows  

@ColdhardSilver  
Danny Phantom was pretty great IMO
 
I don’t have many memories of Jake Long and Juniper Lee honestly

@EHAN  
You should watch it. But the second season is better. And no one in the show’s fandom disagrees with me on that.

@Virgil Stormblade  
Wait which one? Jake Long or Juniper Lee?

@EHAN  
America Dragon was about a half-white, half-asian kid that could become a dragon (fully or partically) in NYC fighting mythical creatures from Gorgons to Jersey Devils.
 
Juniper was about a teen who was Te Xuan Zet (a guardian) who had to protect the human world from monster for another dimension that unfortunately only her and her blood line could see. She fought bare handed like a thug with a wee bit magic.

@EHAN  
Jake Long. It was the better show anyway.

@ColdhardSilver  
Jake Long was still the better show.

I don’t have fond memories of Jake Long. Though it’s funny: apparently the whole thing with Jake using “totally radical”-type slang was that he would only use it when he was stressed out, but Disney being Disney tried to be cool and forced the writers to put in a lot more. When people complained, Disney said, “Never mind, just do what you had in mind in the first place,” and the slang usage dropped except for when they intended it.
 
I also remember thinking that it was incredibly stereotypical (though not necessarily racist).

@Virgil Stormblade
 
I thought Juniper Lee was the better show back when those shows were on.

@Virgil Stormblade  

 
Not to me; DP > AD:JL = L&T JL  

@Jarkes  
Eh, different strokes for different folks.
 
@Jarkes  
Yeah, they toned that down in the 2nd season. I wonder if Dante Basco ever laughed at his “radical” lines.

@ColdhardSilver  
I meant that between Juniper Lee and Jake Long, the latter was better.

Also, Danny Phantom was good until Steve Marmel, the head writer, left on bad terms in the middle of the third season and took his notes for the rest of the series with him, meaning that the remaining episodes were just generic bad guy after generic bad guy and Vlad was turned into a generic take-over-the-world type villain.
 
What I found particularly funny was how the episode Urban Jungle was supposed to be in the middle of the third season, but Nickelodeon had this GREAT (sarcasm) idea to air it as a “movie” before the first several episodes of the season, making many plot points confusing. Also, it was only the length of a standard episode. And this wouldn’t be the last time they would do something like this; they aired the third episode of Power Rangers Samurai as the premiere and didn’t air the actual first two episodes until after the rest of Samurai had aired (but before Super Samurai started).

Also let’s forget Jake’s redesign after 2 seasons from this:  
 
into:  
 
I greatly prefer the old style.

@ColdhardSilver
 
How the heck is the second one worse despite being more detailed?

Anyone know any good, more obscureish animated films?
 
Secret of Kells is good, heard Song of the sea is good.
 
@ColdhardSilver  
Wow that second one is significantly worse.
 
@Jarkes  
They all look more pointy and generic

@Jarkes  
Just look at the dragons  

 

@Princess♠Molestia  
Felidae.

@ColdhardSilver
 
Yeah, the first one actually looks badass. Second one just looks stupid.

@ColdhardSilver  
Yeah. The dragons’ designs were better in the 1st season.

Anyone remember Jackie Chan Adventures? That was a fun show. I think it’s actually on Netflix Instant.

@Jarkes  
Who knew they could make a good show based on someone like Jackie Chan? Kinda makes you wonder why shows like Chuck Norris Karate Commandos failed while Jackie Chan Adventures succeeded.

@Jarkes  
@Virgil Stormblade  
Based on Season 2’s slimmer serpent design my guess is that writers changed the design to make it look more asian than his european dragon body.  
Really the old design still works since he is half-Caucasian.
 
@Princess♠Molestia  
Thief and the Cobbler: re-cobbled edition, not the theatrical version.
 
@Jarkes  
I loved Jackie chan

@Jarkes  
Am I gonna be burned at the stake for not being interested in Jackie Chan Adventures

@Virgil Stormblade  
Generic 80s writing. Jackie Chan has character.
 
@ColdhardSilver  
It’s like Batman redesign…if it sucked!