Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

@fobone
 
You’re right, the arctic is the important one, which is why all this hollering about the antarctic is doing nobody any favors.

@Cyborg_pony  
That’s not relevant to anything that I said.

@Shirani  
Yes.  
Do you think it can’t? Do you think the climate never killed anyone? That we control the planet like gods?
 
I live in an environment that is firsthand experiencing the ill affects of climate change. I have family who’s village was without running water for two weeks this past December because their aquifer ran out of water because our state as a whole has been in a drought for more than three decades. And the rain and snow has been less and less, especially in recent years.

@fobone  
you are insane to think that current climate change will cause us to go extinct in less than 100 years!

@fobone  
Considering that we can’t control the planet very well, what’s the use of using climate change, a thing that happens for better or worse almost regardless of what we do, as a political bludgeon?

@Shirani  
And you haven’t been paying attention.
 
A lot can happen in a 100 years.

So now we’re talking about climate change? Lovely.
 
So to all you climate change deniers let me ask you something. Who do you trust more? Climate scientists or politicians who take money from big oil companies?

@PonyPon  
So what, we all just lay down and die?
 
We’re all going to die at some point anyways, why bother caring about anything?
 
So much for humanity being the best, the “master of this planet and his own destiny”.

@fobone  
then if you think like that then you can write humanity off as good as dead because either way we are fucked. On the one hand perpetual poverty if we have YOUR way of fixing climate change, on the other IF you are correct humanity goes extinct because of climate change. Write our epitaph you nihilist!

@Shirani  
I guess we are fucked. With your worldview too.
 
If we burn, let’s all burn together.

@Shirani  
Get a hold of yourself.

@neutralgrey  
no I have had enough of this blatant fearmongering! “Extinction if we don’t cripple ourselves permanently for the good of humanity!”

@Shirani  
Acting like a lunatic isn’t going to help, calm down.

@Shirani  
“Fearmongering” hm?
 
I guess it’s fearmongering too to say you shouldn’t fill your house with gas, I mean what’s the worst that could happnen?

@Shirani  
Not fear mongering, just saying facts. How would humanity cripple itself by stopping climate change?

@neutralgrey  

@Hypnosryan  
economy-wise by bankrupting ourselves and being in perpetual depression.

@Shirani  
Good. Posting mad doesn’t help, I tried it before and it didn’t work.

@Shirani  
>implying that saving the planet involves any sort of “crippling” (beyond the Koch brothers’ wallets)

@byte[]  
the nations that will fund ANYTHING to stop climate change will be the western rich nations and ONLY them. The rest of the planet gets a free pass.

@Shirani  
I do find it funny that usually climate the change type people that want to put in several laws to “help” the environment typically are usually the same people that say they want to help “the little guy” that gets fucked over.
 
You have all these new “Carbon tax” in place and the already established corporations can easily afford the up-fee and just do whatever they want while ones starting out get dicked and they then sit there with their ears plugged and their thumb up their ass.

@Shirani  
Do China, Russia, India, ect not count?

@fobone  
China-exempt for at LEAST 40 years  
India-Unknown  
Russia-Unknown  
As for the rest of the developing nations the are most likely exempt from paying to mitigate climate change.

Why can’t we all come together on this issue and propose a way to at least conserve our environment for our children and their children to live in? Are we really letting corrupt politicians owned by big oil divide us on this issue?

@Shirani  
And China is the one NOW taking steps to fight it and putting a lot of funds into programs and resources to help the climate. Also developing nations have the most to lose or gain from other nations putting more effort into climate. Particularly those in arid climates