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I am paranoid. We won’t go into war right? Iran won’t attack us right? Will it be safe to travel across the US? Will it be safe to fly a plane and go on a cruise ship in July?
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We probably will go to some state of war. Iran lacks the ability to attack our mainland. Attacking a multinational cruise ship would like lead to the country that perpetrated the attack being wiped off the map.
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US has been at war for 19 years. They well. Yes. As long as you don’t plan to fly or cruise around the middle east, yes.
 
That said, while Trump has repeatedly publicly promised to slaughter innocent civilians and destroy cultural sites, Iran has promised to attack only military targets.
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@Zincy So am safe? I am not going on a  
multinational cruise ship . I going on a cruise to Alaska in July.
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@Background Pony #FBC1
US has been at war for 19 years. They well. Yes. As long as you don’t plan to fly or cruise around the middle east, yes.
That said, while Trump has repeatedly publicly promised to slaughter innocent civilians and destroy cultural sites, Iran has promised to attack only military targets.
 
That’s the funny (re:not funny) part: we haven’t gone to “war” since like the 40s or so. “War” requires a bunch of hoops to jump through, a bunch of congressional oversight and committee, etc. So we just don’t declare “War”. But that doesn’t mean we aren’t still doing war-like conflicts.
 
I’m not joking. We never go more than 5 years or so without getting into/starting a conflict, but all the while we are saying ‘“War” is such a strong word…’
 
Oh and in other news, despite Congress not knowing about Trump’s assassination of Suleimani guests at Mar-A-Lago did.
 
So yeah. Not only are paid guests at Trump properties once again being privvy to national security secrets (that Congress doesn’t know about), and not only is this another example of Pay-To-Play with Trump policies, but we’re this close to an Iranian War-Is-Such-A-Strong-Word if not WW3 over the equivalent of a drunken phrat boy dare.
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The circumstances and political landscape of the Cold War did a lot to alter how the US approaches armed conflict in the world, and many other nations in the world. When you’re in a world where declaring out-right war on someone might make someone launch nukes and kill a significant portion of the population the means and initiative to do conflict has been shifted much more to third parties, clandestine deniable operations, or reclassification of the “war” as something else.
 
The Boxer War in China was the first time the US began using “Police Action” or to use something like security operations to redefine its wars to get around legal constraints. McKinley used the pretext to defend US assets in China to put troops in China to help the rest of the Great Powers out down the anti-interventionist Boxer movement, and bypass Congress to do so.
 
The ability for the president to do that was broadened for the War On Terror.
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I wonder why people are surprised that after decades of touting “American exceptionalism” you end up with a moron who actually believes that in office
 
Feels to me that Politicians and the state expected themselves to be able to control the nationalism and keep Pragmatic guys in office
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The Democrats are bad enough, thanks. Frankly it’d do the country some good if the GOP went the way of its predecessor and split the party, letting the half that people care about be the one to get all the power and reform and the other half just die.
 
 
In other news, Trump tells judge to dismiss the case about him raping a woman because ‘I didn’t do it. And even if I did we’re not in the state where I raped her.’
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If I’m correct, Iran has stated that it doesn’t have an issue with the American people as a whole, just Trump himself and possibly the military.
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