The Anti-Censorship DNP Pledge

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On principle, I gatta join in on this. The line of how far this policy will only broaden, now that foot in the door has been made.
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As I was discussing in the other thread…  
According to the very research paper that people try to cite to defend the idea that this ‘propaganda’ has some sort of effect:  
There is no yet proven relationship between consumption of extremist online content and adoption of extremist ideology (McCants, 2011; Rieger, Frischlich, & Bente, 2013), and some scholars and others remain sceptical of a significant role for the Internet in processes of online radicalization.
Many of these suggested interventions raise the specter of social media companies policing political thought, which is palatable to neither the companies nor many users, and is especially problematic in the absence of rigorous empirical research that analyzes the Internet’s role in processes of radicalization.
 
There is no empirical evidence of an ‘underground railroad’ or ‘pipeline’ that is somehow turning people into nazis. In fact, in the face of propaganda, people tend to strongly reject it.  
For the first time, based on a content analysis of actual right-wing and Islamic extremist
Internet videos, our study used state-of-the-art methods from experimental media
psychology for tracking the emotional and cognitive responses of a broad sample
of 450 young male adults. As expected, we mostly found rejection and never
strong acceptance for the extremist videos. Still, specific production styles and
audience characteristics were able to cause at least neutral attitudes underpinning
the strategic potential of internet propaganda. In the end, our studies might result
in more questions than answers. However, we are confident that the conceptual as
well as the methodological way chosen is most promising as to approach a deeper
understanding of the first effects of extremist Internet propaganda.
 
It does state that certain production styles paired with personality traits of the individual could lead to neutral attitudes, but this how the psychology of design and argument works and is apolitical. There is no evidence that exposure to memes such as Aryanne or Pepe the Frog, or even explicit propaganda in the above case, can cause any normal person’s attitude to shift from ‘normal’ to ‘violent extremist’. Even over time.
 
If you have evidence you’d be willing to share, I’d gladly read it. However as far as I’m aware the justification behind this censorship is not based in scientific fact and is much more likely to lead to an echo chamber and further censorship than it is to lead to ‘violent right wing extremists’.
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@Filiecs  
Thank you for these sources.
 
Are there any studies that analyze sudden shift to censorship? I.e. what happens to users who enjoy certain kind of content when said content is effectively completely banned on a site they frequent? How many of them ignore the ban, how many of them oppose or support it, how many of them shift to other sites and specifically sites explicitly made for this sort of content?
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I will as well send my DNP report in and post elsewhere.
 
Censorship is nothing I stand for! I would kindly suggest other artists to follow me.
 
Rainbooru sounds ok.as well as my other sites.
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@Barhandar  
I was able to find articles that do, in fact, support the idea that censorship can at times increase exposure to the content being censored.  
A study on censorship in China:  
https://stanford.edu/~dyang1/pdfs/1984bravenewworld_draft.pdf  
Taken together, our findings suggest that censorship in China is effective not only because the regime
makes it difficult to access sensitive information, but also because it fosters an environment in which citizens
do not demand such information in the first place.
 
In fact, explicit censorship and
salient actions to block information access can backfire — information consumption may actually increase,
similar to the so-called “forbidden fruit effect” (Hobbs and Roberts, 2016).
In certain circumstances, sudden censorship can even result in the opposite of the intended effect: an increase in access to off-limits information among people motivated by the new censorship to seek out avenues for evasion.
 
For example, when Wikimedia, a Wikipedia-like website in France, was allegedly asked by France’s intelligence agency to remove part of an article, the report of the attempted censorship launched an international campaign against it, and the page ended up becoming the most-viewed page on the website.4 In this case, censorship itself caused political backlash that attracted attention to the information the government had hoped to make less accessible.
 
Considering the reaction we are seeing, I would say that it would not be unreasonable to theorize that the act of Derpibooru censoring Aryanne has increased traffic to /mlp/, /mlpol/, and 8kun.
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If people are gonna whine this hard about temporary tag restrictions or whatever then the staff might as well go Full Exterminatus on the nazi “”“jokes””” and let the incels fuck off to their weird new booru with humanized foalcon.
 
Artists as a rule have traditionally leaned left. Yall a drop in the bucket and you won’t be missed.
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Another news article, this time attempting to be more neutral:  
https://quillette.com/2020/06/27/is-the-my-little-pony-fan-community-really-full-of-nazis/  
The Atlantic article avoids mentioning the half-million pornographic images the site hosts, because doing so reveals that the community’s widespread opposition to content moderation on their imageboard is about protecting sexually explicit content rather than creating a space for hateful politics to flourish, and it further reveals that the Bronies are 500 times more interested in having sex with My Little Pony characters than they are in spreading racist pony memes.
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If people are gonna whine this hard about temporary tag restrictions or whatever then the staff might as well go Full Exterminatus on the nazi “”“jokes””” and let the incels fuck off to their weird new booru with humanized foalcon.
Artists as a rule have traditionally leaned left. Yall a drop in the bucket and you won’t be missed.
 
Hitler was an artist, just saying.
 
Also, I know you didn’t bother to read anything else, but more and more artists are already using the DNP list, soon you’ll be the one missing when new artists won’t bother posting here anymore
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>It hurting users is the point.
 
Hilariously embracing the logic of looters, vandals, and terrorists lmao
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If people are gonna whine this hard about temporary tag restrictions or whatever then the staff might as well go Full Exterminatus on the nazi “”“jokes””” and let the incels fuck off to their weird new booru with humanized foalcon.
Artists as a rule have traditionally leaned left. Yall a drop in the bucket and you won’t be missed.
Hitler was an artist, just saying
 
And quite a poor, unpopular one….
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Artists in general don’t want to walk on eggshells because people refuse to filter what they don’t like and demand censorship
 
People also very much don’t like being called every buzzword under the sun for liking art
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I would like to know as well, but as stated earlier, a lot of artists probably wouldn’t feel comfortable putting their name out there even if they do decide to DNP. Which is a sentiment I can respect. Perhaps artists who feel comfortable could share where best to follow them in this thread? Would that be appropriate?
 
I know the easy answer is “just follow them on twitter,” but damn I really, really hate using twitter and hope one of the different alternatives to Derpi take off.
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Can’t send private messages to anons. Additionally there’s no guarantee you won’t just share who the artist is, so I think that anyone who doesn’t want to announce themselves leaving publicly in the thread shouldn’t mention it in private either.
 
@Filiecs  
This article leaves me conflicted but also laughing.
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@Barhandar  
Well if they want to protect their identity it’s ok. But then i’ll do the same or create a new account just for ask for this. Also why i’ll share the names, i’m just curious about this
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you would be surprised how many “nazis” are in /mlp/. Have you even bothered to check their political tests and find out their results?
 
It´s almost like you are fighting against an invisible ghost or something that somehow, you believe that is bigger than it actually is and applying partial censorship in an arbitrary manner without any announcement whatsoever doesn´t help at all.
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Where can i see the artists that will ask for DNP? I want to know for follow them in other sites 🤔
 
 
@Osha  
I would like to know as well, but as stated earlier, a lot of artists probably wouldn’t feel comfortable putting their name out there even if they do decide to DNP. Which is a sentiment I can respect. Perhaps artists who feel comfortable could share where best to follow them in this thread? Would that be appropriate?
I know the easy answer is “just follow them on twitter,” but damn I really, really hate using twitter and hope one of the different alternatives to Derpi take off.
 
A good portion of us moved to pillow fort for the time being and are waiting on Ponybooru and Rainbooru. When those pop up, the tags will likely be the same for everyone. I’m out of invites unfortunately but I’d be glad too give more away when they refresh on Monday.
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@Osha  
You have a point. Artists have been making pictures of racism, but their names are only below the pictures in a small tag. The site got blamed for the pictures, not the artists who make them. Maybe the mods are tired of getting blame for the pictures the artists make.
 
Maybe the rule can be undone, but the artists name, twitter and email are shown above the pictures so that if people are angry about the pictures, they will blame the artist instead
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