Ducktales (2017) Thread

@Background Pony #9C0F
 
Ah… I see. Yes, I can see why you’d make the comparison when you lay it all out like that. I remember watching Quack Pack back in the day, and I remember being really annoyed much of the time, especially by Huey, Dewey and Louie’s personalities. The Ducktales 2017 versions I like a lot, which is part of the reason I was so offended by the comparison.
 
That said, I remember the “Poochie” elements he mentions, and how the boys seemed like a desperate attempt to create ‘hip’ new versions of the boys. Ducktales 2017 doesn’t really do that. Besides using cellphones and other modern tech, it’s not like they try to act cool or anything. They actually act like kids. And I also like the smaller things, like how Dewey in Daytrip of Doom tries to include Webby (I suspect because as middle child he knows what it’s like to go unnoticed) but it’s Huey who thinks to ask her about what she knows and warns her about stuff, while Louie is the first to guide her once they get to Funzo’s Funzone.
 
I think Disney XD dropped the ball by airing the episodes out of order. I think I’m gonna try and watch them in the expected order and see if that gives Scrooge more screentime. Already this explains why Beagle Birthday Massacre seemed to come too soon after Ma Beagle’s introduction.

Who do you think will inherit Scrooge’s money when he dies?

@Background Pony #256D  
Nobody.

@Background Pony #256D  
The boys will. There was an episode where Scrooge got teleported into the future and they were running his business thinking he wad dead.

@igotnopicks
 
I could see Scrooge not leaving his family any money because he wants them to earn their money the way he did.

@Background Pony #256D  
If we are going by canon, one of Carl Barks’ comics stated that the kids will inherit Scrooge’s fortune because Donald has no sense for business (and he isn’t interested on Scrooge’s money to begin) meanwhile Glad is a lazy asshole who do not deserve anything, and finally the kids had the gut feeling to trust a shady guy who asked money to get a lost treasure and the guy not only turned out to be honest but also paid the kids’ money back with giant interests out of gratitude.
 
Other Barks’ comics involve Scrooge trying really hard to convince Donald to receive his fortune while Donald himself literally tries to run away from it because he likes his normal life and taking care of Scrooge’s empire will ruin it for good.

@Anonycat
 
Donald likes his life the way it is?

@Background Pony #256D  
Yeah, basically Donald said he hated the dea of taking the burden of Scrooge’s fortune and having to miss out the good, simple things life had to offer like sodas and hot dogs.
 
Carl Bark’s Donald was considerably different than the Loser Donald we all know.  

@Splinter
 
Oh, I remember that episode. It was kind of the reverse of the Darkwing Duck episode where Gosalyn wound up in the future where Darkwing became Darkwarrior. Only in Darkwarrior’s case, he wasn’t able to overcome his hatred of crime and was still able to bring himself to take aim at Gos (though he couldn’t pull the trigger), while the boys came to Scrooge’s defense.
 
@Background Pony #256D
 
I can’t see Scrooge doing that, myself. He might put them to some sort of test to see if they deserve the fortune, but to leave them nothing for no reason than to want them to build up their own fortunes? I’m sure he realises he was very, very lucky that he was in the right place and the right time to make money in many cases.
 
@Anonycat
 
You know, I never really saw Donald as much of a loser. Yeah, he has a temper, but he never seemed like a deadbeat or something, you know?
 
Also, I like that comic’s implication that Scrooge is, “Spend money?! Never!” then, “Oh, wait. Christmas? That’s a different story.”

@WM-R  
Barks’ Donald was never a loser. Ill-tempered and irresponsible yes, but not a loser. Neither Scrooge or Gladstone could mess with him without getting beaten up if they pushed him too far. (There’s a story where Donald’s love for Gurgleurp soda was used as an analogy for alcoholism though.)
 
Don Rosa turned Donald into a pathetic deadbeat loser that anyone could push around, which is one of the reasons his stories tend to start flame wars among Carl Barks fans when Don Rosa’s fans keep trying to push them as part of Barks’ canonverse.

@Anonycat
 
I have to admit I never really read much of Don Rosa’s work with Donald. Most of my experience with him comes from animation, so that’s probably why I cannot imagine Donald as a loser anyone can push around. Maybe a select few like Daisy, but generally there’s a reason he, Mickey and Goofy are all known as determinators.

What does Gladstone do now? Scrooge and Donald already didn’t like him, and now the triplets don’t like him.

@Background Pony #256D  
Probably various efforts to win them over that slowly show him the value of family and honest work, or at the very least we get a touching moment where they invoke “We don’t like you, but we still love you,”

@Background Pony #256D  
Just like in Barks’ comics, where Gladstone is openly malicious so neither Donald or the kids can stand him at all.  
In fact, not even his luck could save him from Donald’s fists when he pushed it too far and also had some downer endings where his luck got him what he asked but not what he wanted.

@Anonycat
 
Pretty sure we saw an element of that in the new episode. Sure, Gladstone is free of the luck vampire, but now the kids see just what a petty, selfish jerk he is and he’s no longer the “cool uncle”.
 
@Thanotos Omega
 
I’m pretty sure that the very fact Scrooge and Donald bothered to respond to his call for help in this episode counts as an example of that. Or at the very least, “We hate your guts, but you’re still family.”
 
On the other hand, Scrooge did seem pretty okay with just abandoning him until he realised there was a demon involved…

If Alan Young hadn’t died last year, do you think they could have had him voice Scrooge, or would he be too old?

@Background Pony #256D  
From what I understand, he was still alive when they made the decision to get David Tennant for the new voice.

@Prof.NightJack  
@Background Pony #256D
 
Yeah, as sad as it is, I don’t think that Alan Young was in any shape to voice Scrooge for the new series. Maybe a cameo at best, but if I remember right, he was in the same shape as the Japanese voice actor for the original Megatron: his voice had aged to the point he could no longer perform.

Most of the episodes have been good and the references to the older, material have been nice, but so far outside the pilot and The Great Dime Chase it hasn’t been as mind-blowing as I’d hoped. Maybe by next month things will start picking up more?
 
Is there any word on November episodes yet?

@Background Pony #1C8D
 
I think you can partly blame Disney XD’s airing decisions for that. I want to wait for more episodes to be out so I can watch them in the order the creative team intended and see if that makes it more well-paced. It’s kind of frustrating to hear that the team came up with a mix of character-focused episodes and globe-trotting adventure episodes, then discover that Disney XD mucked up the order.

Dang it, Mark Beaks. Quit making me hope for the success of one of Glomgold’s plans.

Man, I felt bad for Huey in the episode. Reminds me of the sad truth that working hard doesn’t always warrant success…

@Dirty Bit
 
And this is sadly something that kids really need to learn. It’s unfortunate, yes, but working hard isn’t always going to get you what you want if you’re up against someone who works hard and has natural talent.

OK, so, another Saturday, another new episode, and I think I’ve finally reached the point where I need to recalibrate my expectations from “adventure-comedy” to “comedy with occasional adventure”. Because really, if they’re determined to characterize Flintheart Glomgold as a comic, incompetent villain, that pretty much leaves only Magica as a continuing, genuine threat (and Ma Beagle to an extent, though she’s severely hampered by having to depend on her sons). Still a fun episode overall, and I hope those brief glimpses of an angrier, more serious Mark Beaks are followed up on in his later appearances (if any), but a minor letdown compared to most of what’s come before.
 
@WM-R  
Or catches a lucky break and is prepared to capitalize on it. Or (in some professions) can sweet-talk the people who make the decisions and control the purse strings.

@Background Pony #9C0F
 
Oh, all that stuff is important for kids to know, yes. I remember from the old G.I.Joe toyline where there was this one guy who worked for Destro who is dedicated and talented, yes, but Destro especially valued his extremely good luck and how he took advantage of it, but didn’t rely on it.
 
I’m still gonna wait till more eps are out to see if watching them in the order originally intended will improve the pacing.