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fobone

To every braindead piece of shit fucker who says “teachers should be armed”, fuck them.
 
I’ve known a lot of teachers in my life on a personal level, my mother is a teacher, I am currently in the process of training to be a teacher.
 
None of the those people, including myself have what it to takes to kill a student if the time arose and if they did it haunt them for the rest of their lives.
 
I hate that this is a conversation that is even being had.
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@LeoNero  
Sorry for speaking my mind so.  
But do you honestly expect average citizens to take the lives of what could possibly be students? Let me remind you this is the kind of thing that gives trained soldiers PTSD. You are asking that from average everyday people who just want to go to a job that should be peaceful.
 
Again I know teachers personally, I am in classes of people who want to be teachers, those are not the kind of people who would even touch a gun let alone use it for it’s intended purpose.
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@fobone  
And frankly, they’re overworked as it is. Adding weapons training to their busy schedule would be a big ask. If you’re going to have armed security at a school, it needs to be someone who can focus on that job.
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To be fair, the first guy Ainz was responding to didn’t seem too interested in compromise, though.
 
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In theory, lower rates can be compensated with a higher level of overall receipts generated combined with (most importantly) cuts in spending.
 
The problem is that, realistically speaking, it’s next to impossible to make any meaningful cuts to spending because nobody wants their own ox gored.
 
Let’s try a little thought experiment: write down the top ten things that you think need to be significantly cut or outright eliminated from the budget, just write the first ten that come to your head. Get it? Got it? Good.
 
Now…how many of those things listed are things that you really care about or personally affect you? I only came up with two, and I think I might have even cheated a bit. Now take that and apply the same results to the millions upon millions of people that are in this country and the 535 people that represent them (and rely on the votes of those said millions to stay in office) and you will understand the budget problem.
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@fobone
 
One thing I think is worth mentioning is that, in my understanding of these matters, one of the most difficult parts of training soldiers is not – as one might suppose – getting them to follow orders and do what they’re told. Most humans, for better or for worse, tend to be natural followers. The most difficult part tends to be having to get the soldiers to be able to kill. I don’t mean kill in do-or-die, fight-or-flight situations where you can barely think past your terror and adrenaline, I mean consciously, deliberately choose to kill someone else. Most of the time, people can’t do it. And even when someone can do this through terror and survival instinct, then once things sow down and they can fully process what happened… well, it’s rarely a pleasant situation, let’s put it this way.
 
We’re social animals. We’ve always been, since before our ancestors would even have been recognizable as monkeys. We are very much the result of nearly a hundred years of natural selection favoring empathy and willingness to cooperate, because that’s what it takes to thrive in a group. For all our faults, once we actually see each other face to face and recognize a fellow human face, we empathize with each other, and we do so quickly. What this means is that, ninety-nine times out of a hundred, when someone has to heft their gun and decide to end a life… they can’t do it. It can be incredibly difficult to bring yourself to kill, and even if you can there’s almost no way to do it without it being a traumatic experience.
 
Outside of soldiers, who have gone through a very great deal of training to both be able to kill when they need to and to handle the side effects -and sometimes it doesn’t work there, either - the only way for people to do what Trump and his crew of idiots are proposing is to either demonize the people you’re trying to kill to the point you no longer really register them as human, to be severely disturbed, or to be an out-and-out psychopath.
 
This is all assuming, mind you, that the potential shooter and potential cadaver are strangers with no ties. When you’re asking for a teacher to shoot someone who could very well be one of their students, a teenager like those they’ve spent their life teaching and trying to help… no. It doesn’t work that way.
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Except there are already places that do allow teachers to carry as a means to protect their students - and its not really expected to be used against actual students but outsiders like Lanza or Cruz who come onto the campus to harm others.
 
But it isn’t something that should be mandated, this isn’t an issue that will be fixed with a one-size fits all solution.
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I love how he can’t believe what’s happening. He’s like “Uh… Didn’t we make sure Hillary would uh… win?”
 
Also, people talking about how Trump was sitting. Are they really that petty?
 
How many articles now on it I wonder? Did he not get a 2nd scoop of ice cream to talk about?
 
Also, talking about one still image. where he just has his arms crossed. I’ve seen it, he just looks like he’s thinking.  
Honestly;
 
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This, is what they want to focus on? Not what was said, but what he looked like?
 
And they wonder why no one listen to them.
 
Do they expect a bewildered glare while he flails his arms around?
 
… Yeah, probably.
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That’s silly, of course. Bernie fell out of love with Russia when they stopped being Soviet. The only left-wing nut job with confirmed Russian ties is “Doctor” Jill Stein, who was at that same shindig with Michael Flynn and Vlad “The Impaler” Putin.
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It’s almost like they’ll attack anyone to keep that narrative going.
 
Ironic how he bought into “muh Russia” to defend Hillary, but is now on the opposite end of the hunt.
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