@maverick159
I hate to burst your bubble but this comment from Peet’s Glass of Water-The How, When, and Y-chormoson says other wise.
slender mane
2 years ago
you do know that bayonetta was designed by a woman?
Lily Peet
2 years ago (edited)
And written by Hideki Kamiya. And either way, bad character design is still bad character design.
Lily Peet
2 years ago
+pokemaster of everything The character design in general. S
exuality is not what a character IS, it’s something a character DOES. Defining a character by their sexuality is both lazy and one-dimensional.
The Ms Fanservice trope always bothered me as well. It’s two parts sexist and one part patronizing. As if Platinum Games is going “Oooh! Look at the sexy lady! Doesn’t that make you want to buy our game?”
No, no it does not, Platinum. “Sexy” ladies are a dime a dozen and quite frankly playing an overdone trope straight and claiming you’re being “subversive” might be something most of your audience is going to buy, but I wasn’t born yesterday.
Frankly in any capable universe that isn’t deliberately stacked in her favor, Bayonetta would have been dead the instant she was met with the sharp end of a sword.
Lily Peet
2 years ago
+Guciom Even in the context of another video game, Bayonetta would be dead. I’m not talking about realism, I’m talking about practicality. If you put her in a Battle Royale situation with Commander Shepard, Darth Traya, Dante, Nero, Raiden, and Arthas, then Bayonetta would be the first one to die.
Lily Peet
2 years ago
+pokemaster of everything Here’s the question you have to ask though: If Bayonetta, Dante, and Raiden were all in a fight with eachother, who dies first?
In any practical instance, Bayonetta dies first.
Lily Peet
2 years ago
+Joel McCabe I can’t look at broader character design when there ISN’T ANY!
For the fun of it have an extra comment that is the most recent even though it is like five months old.
Marelor Moon
5 months ago
You mentioned, that a writing staff has to be able to properly write a character of each gender to be standard, but my question is: is that fitting for MlP? I agree with you, that a female-dominated cast is absolutely refreshing and that we really should have more of those in other shows next to those you mentioned. But I have difficulties to find a male character in MlP who is well-developed and written like the mane 6. Characters like Spike or Big Mac, who are the most dominant male characters in the show, hardly got any development for a long time and only lately we get some better episodes for them. But to be honest: shouldn’t at least one character of the mane 6 be male, just to show that they can write a male character as well as a female?
Lily Peet
5 months ago
First of all, the notion that Spike and Big Mac only recently started getting good development is complete and total nonsense. These two are some of the most aggressively nitpicked characters in the fandom and do not get nearly enough credit. Spike is even a member OF the main cast (it isn’t just the “Main Six” and that term should honestly be put to the grave). If people can start claiming that Starlight is a good character based on “Cute faic” then maybe it’s time to stop pretending that Spike is some vestigial and worthless background character.
Marelor Moon
5 months ago
What exactly DO we know about Big Mac from the show? He is part of the Apple Family, a hard worker, he doesn’t talk much, he is pretty shy but gets involved with different mares, he got a gorgeous singing voice and he feels depressed by his famous younger sister. That’s about it in six 1/2 Seasons. But I get it, the show isn’t about him, it’s about Twilight and her friends. Speaking about Spike: first of all, you personally mentioned, that the main cast already was too big for a male character, what automatically places him in the second row. Second of all, Spike was mostly treated as a gag character in the first seasons, who mostly got the short end of the joke or even was forgotten. Every good episode with him was nearly flattened by several episodes, where his character was shown as clumsy and creator of the problem itself. My personal down was “It ain’t easy being breezies” where he collapsed under the preasure of failing so often.
And because you mentioned Starlight Glimmer: have you seen her last episodes? She befriended Trixie, something even Twilight didn’t do honestly, she helped to save the main cast + several others and offered Chryalis friendship and she also helped to save the Empire and made up with the “reason” of her downfall (I still question her motives). Her biggest problem is her temper and that she tries the easy solution (magic) too soon, but would it have been the better idea to send her on her way after “Celestial Advice”? Definitely not. She isn’t ready to learn friendship without supervision. My biggest flaw of this opener was, that Twilight thought, Starlight would be ready to graduate and leave the castle on her own.
Lily Peet
5 months ago
Big Macintosh is a careful and deliberate pony, having learned the hard way in his youth that constantly running his mouth and spewing out whatever comes to his mind without properly thinking about it can have devastating consequences. As a result, he spends a great deal of his time contemplating and philosophizing. This is why much of his work on the farm is manual labor, as it frees his mind to carefully consider every idea that crosses it. A smart, but ill-educated pony who pays careful attention to detail and pays proper attention to not only his surroundings, but everything that other ponies say to him, allowing him to retain good memory of the events that occur around him.
That is a great deal of information to glean about a character, and that was gained from four episodes worth of content (Pinkie Apple Pie, Where the Apple Lies, Hard to Say Anything, Applebuck Season). The problem, however, is that this requires a literary skill called “inference” where one gains information based on the implications of the other information around it, rather than the explicit declaration. This is a skill most people in a fandom flat out don’t have, and if something is not explicitly spelled out for them then they simply will not pick up on it.
If you stop and think about the implications put upon characters, rather than going entirely by what an episode flat out displays, you will learn a lot more about a character. Or you could keep refusing to pay any real attention and complain that a work expects you to have at least a 2nd Grade reading level to properly enjoy it.
