The Downfall of Bhaalspawn (contains possible SJW discussions)

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ShelleyD is an asshole.  
He FIRMLY believes that Keyframe “made up” the abuse story just to con fans out of their money.
 
I do remember MAP’s old video where they basically poked humor at Keyframe Aftermath and snarked how she basically did that to be on Dr. Wolf’s channel. Or something like that, MAP’s video is pretty much gone since he came to regret it
Jas

Here some Peet related things
 
http://archive.is/UJ4Ir
 
anonymous asked:
How did nerd culture become a hotbed of right-winged, conservative soapboxing? I would’ve thought that grown men being into cartoons, comics, and video games would be far too juvenile for the proper “man’s man” conservatives love to tout about. I also would’ve thought that most entertainment would be too liberal for any of them to even bother with.
Nerd Culture is predominately populated by straight, white men. No matter how unconventional your hobbies, you still benefit from a bigoted power structure that right wing conservatives seek to continue perpetuating.
 
Peet did you every thing that maybe just maybe nerds got tired of their hobbies always being attacked by the
 
media after all before Anita came around anytime someone said something stupid about comic books and video games
 
no body complained when the person was called out and what do you know when Anita came around suddenly nerds
 
where attacked again because they dared to call out a woman. Oh and good job attack the right wing who have
 
nothing to do with nerd hobbies at all but you got to make your jabs at conservatives some how.
 
http://archive.is/6ONYM
 
I’m working through the very early framework of the new Top Ten Best/Worst Episodes” videos that are going to be full produced when the series concludes next year, and like the Musical Number updates, I’m putting a hard limit on similar types of episodes.
The Best of List is going to feature only one Post-Reboot Fluttershy episode as being reflective of Fluttershy’s reboot as a whole. 

The Worst of List is going to feature only one Starlight episode as being reflective of Worst Pony. 

I’m only including one of the four Musical Spam episodes on the Worst Episodes list. 

I’m only including one Two-Parter on each list.
 
We get it Peet your idea of fun is not the same as everyone elses.
 
http://archive.is/CgTAj
 
anonymous asked:
They’re not agreeing with your accusations! They’re explaining what they actually did! They didn’t set out with the intention of telling abuse victims to get over it you fag!
I know. I made reference to that.
“Whether they realize it or not, what they’ve actually done is tell abuse victims to just let it go and get over it.” - Blame and Groom ADDENDUM 
That’s always been the core problem with the three of them. They’re not good at looking at their sentence structure or the actual makeup of their statements and thinking about it’s implications. By Josh’s own admission, he was constantly being pressured at school for his speech being laden with microaggressions.
Microaggressions are, 95% of the time, accidentally problematic statements made from not thinking about how you form sentences.
Josh admits in the video that anyone who knows him will tell you that he “struggles with tact.” And as someone who knows him, that is true. Of course, there’s the secondary problem in that he just accepts that failing and never actually works on it, and gets annoyed when other people pressure him to do better.
This isn’t even an old failing that’s long past us, the most recent example was two days ago.
By contrast, Finn admits to not fully understanding the nuances of this entire situation, and that’s why he asked Patch to proofread his statement before he went ahead with it, and ultimately his statement was “I don’t know how I can help, so if there’s anything you need don’t hesitate to ask.” Again: Finn is a delightful.
anonymous asked:
Is there any reason to watch Josh’s video, or does it add anything different to the whole pedokritic thing? I’ve listened to half of it and it just seems like him repeating his previous posts on tumblr where he tried to wash his hands off guilt and responsability.
I’m kinda back and forth on whether or not I should give it a deconstruction, both for his own benefit (which will probably be ignored) and for everyone else’s benefit as a comprehensive “Here’s every mistake made along the way, don’t repeat them” guide.
Jas

@Osean-Kitty
 
yeah Peet is still going after Josh and according to a couple of comments on Josh’s video on Tumblr Xain was the one who made the pitition to have Dr. Wolf and Silver Quill banned from cons.
Jas

Sorry to double post but here is more food for thought.
 
http://goat-yells-at-everything.tumblr.com/post/170869158311/sign-the-petition
 
junglehero227:
Counter petition for those who believe Dr. Wolf and Silver Quill shouldn’t be banned from conventions for one poorly worded video and a ton of baseless accusations. Spread this around please!
 
Wait…what?! This is….wow. Toon is responsible for his own damn actions. His former friends are victims of his sociopathic tendencies. They shouldn’t be made to share the fucking blame.
And yes, I FULLY support what they tried to do in terms of keeping it quiet at first. Why? Because since the leaks, the sociopath has disappeared. It’s likely he has not been arrested and he may not see punishment for his actions for a LONG TIME, if ever. He has family that believe him to the point they likely are helping him avoid the police.
Keeping it quiet wasn’t about being “profesional”. It was about gathering information so the police had enough to sustain an arrest warrant and charges. The “profesional” part was how they, as content creators and “famous faces” in the fandom, were going to present the facts ONCE HE WAS ARRESTED AND CHARGED. That’s how this kind of shit WORKS in the real world.
Docs use of the word “forgiveness” may have been a poor choice BUT I feel he did a pretty good job of explaining what he meant. It’s not about saying what Toon did was OK, it’s about taking away his ability to hurt people after the fact. It’s about saying he isn’t worth the time and emotional effort to be angry at. It’s about saying “you’re a worthless peice of human garbage and I have better things to do than to think about you, let alone be hurt by you.”
Stop trying to lay blame on these guys.
Y’all are upset and want someone to be angry at, I understand that, and with Toons disappearing act the actual source of hurt is MIA so it’s easy to see those who are here as targets. I understand, but it’s still wrong. You’re laying the blame at the wrong feet.
Jas

Sorry to double post again but here is even more food for thought.
 
https://takashi0.tumblr.com/post/170867320726/rainbowloliofjustice-i-find-it-funny-people-talk
 
rainbowloliofjustice
I find it funny people talk about things being illegal to ship, write about, etc. and when someone is concerned enough to contact a lawyer and get actual proof from someone who is an actual, verifiable professional that those things are not illegal to write/draw/ship about they get made fun of and mocked for talking to a professional.
Like calling someone a pedophile, abuser, etc. and saying they need to be reported to the FBI and CPS / DPS / etc. is fucking serious. People lose their jobs and lives over that shit even if it is only an accusation that is later proven false. Kids can end up traumatized or even abused in foster care while an investigation is being conducted even if there is only an accusation of abuse until they are 100% certain that no abuse is going on and even still, sometimes the experience can traumatize children, ruin families, and permanently ruin bonds between families.
It isn’t a joke and there is nothing wrong with talking to a professional lawyer, doctor, etc. especially when people are basically treatening your reputation and livelyhood.
Yeah looking at it without context contacting a lawyer over shipping and fandom discourse sound stupid and honestly, 10 years ago would have been stupid, but when you add in people threatening to contact CPS, the FBI, calling you a pedophile, abuser, etc. it makes perfectly reasonable sense to treat it like a serious threat.
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@Jas  
I really don’t understand how and why some people let things escalate to this point. And this person’s right. This kind of fandom stupidity did exist back then (unfortunately back then it would be harassing the people working on the show/book/etc. the fandom likes). But at the same time, I never remember it being this bad.
Jas

@mjangelvortex
 
to be honest I think a lot of it is because a lot of people don’t like the Brony Analysis community and also
 
because they see drawings and fanfics on the same level as real kids for some reason. So when Toon was outed as a
 
pedo and the leaks happened. I think a lot of people just had to come out of the wood works because they saw the
 
best chance to basically make people have a harder time healing and all that. Peet is one of the best examples of
 
this. In her video Blame and Groom she admitted that Patch had given Peet evidence and like a lot of people on
 
this fourm pointed out Peet did nothing with it because let’s face it she likes looking right and the best way to
 
do that was play the long game and hope something relating to Toon happened. After all Peet has been outed as an
 
abuser by Josh first, then game Blake and then lastly came Brittney aka ThoughtBubblePony. The sad thing is that
 
Peet victims never seem to be able to have people believe them. I mean we believe them because we have seen
 
Peet’s post and videos. But everyone else seems to want the whining about Peet to go away.
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@Vortaxonus  
@Jas  
I’m not talking about the MLP fandom, the brony analysis community, or Lily.
 
I was just speaking in general since I’ve seen this happen in other fandoms too. Some people get way out of hand with policing their fandoms for making art and fanfictions of things they don’t like to the point that they’ll harass each other. It’s disgusting.
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Sighs, though my petition is getting around… it has a lot of catching up to do for the other one. It is at 777 signatures already and there is no way of telling all those people of the misinformation or to be shown the other side.
Jas

@mjangelvortex
 
Like I said some people just want to look better then others and they see something they thing is problematic
 
there for they have to act like the moral leader. That is why you see extremist in the Social Justice movement
 
going after things they don’t like they somehow see the fanfics and drawings and somehow in their minds think
 
people support this stuff but they sometimes give into double standers.
Jas

Here are Peet related links
 
http://archive.is/CWYMq
 
anonymous asked:
Any validity in Josh claims that immediately going public would have hurt law enforcement investigations on Toon?
No. The big hook in this claim is his social media being deleted supposedly interfering with the investigation. However, Twitter, Skype, and Tumblr all keep archives of deactivated accounts explicitly to aid in criminal investigations. One warrant to Twitter and the police would have Zack’s entire Twitter archive, including non-public information like Direct Messages.
Likewise with Skype, Tumblr and Youtube.
anonymous asked:
Then what do you expect from Josh to do in order to come to good terms? Not necesary to become friends, just to at least be more calm about this.
I don’t. I talk about his behavior in detached, deconstructive terms in the hopes that other people will pressure him to change armed with information. Josh has too much influence to be allowed to run around unchallenged, as this entire shitshow has demonstrated. When unchallenged, he is unbelievably destructive.
On a personal level, I do not ever want him in my personal life ever again. I’d wash my hands of him entirely if it weren’t for the fact that he is still hurting people who don’t have the platform to bite back.
 
says the woman who keeps victim blaming Josh and never hushes up about him. Josh is the last person who should be called destructive
 
http://archive.is/5IidR
 
anonymous asked:
Just watched Joshs video. At least he apologised to you and Patchwork. And we got an apology from the Doc from the mouth too. Not one from Silver though. Josh even said about how Toon tried to convince Joshs girlfriend, Amarau, into giving him a second chance. Still, the question is, do you accept the apology?
No. I said before and I’ll say it again: I don’t take apologies. I take results. I’ve had people, Josh included, apologize to me for something they’ve done only to never once correct that behavior.
This isn’t the first time Josh has thrown wild accusations at me in a rush to discredit criticism, and it certainly wasn’t the worst example of it. And any apology for throwing wild accusations is a hollow one while the worst example of it is still up on his Youtube channel.
I haven’t talked about this, but Josh’s abrupt accusations of emotional abuse had a severe impact on me. Remember he never said anything to me, not even a one-sided message. There was a vague Tumblr post about “realizing you’re in an abusive relationship” that I saw when I woke up one morning. And when I saw this, I actually messaged him on Skype asking him if he was alright.
It took an hour to realize I was the one he was talking about. If you’re wondering how that can happen, if you block someone on Skype and DON’T immediately remove them from your contacts, you appear as just “Offline” to them. It was only when Lizzy remarked that he was on “Do Not Disturb” that I learned this, and I confirmed it was me he was talking about by checking my Battle.Net Friends to notice he was absent from it.
I spent the next few days trying to figure out what the fuck I’d actually done. I was going over a year’s worth of chat logs trying to find something I’d missed. It was only a few weeks later when I read the “Open Letter” from Alex Rochon that I finally found out the reason: I repeatedly challenged him on his ignorant and dehumanizing views.
To say that I was furious was an understatement. I listened to this guy yammer on about how everyone’s so sensitive these days and nobody can handle being challenged, and when challenged himself he ran and cried and tried to paint me as abusive. And he still was too much of a coward to say it to my face. He had to do it quietly while I was asleep.
But what I was more furious about was that I spent quite a while doubting myself. Wondering if similar defensive accusations from two other people might have actually had some weight to them. I actually asked both Lizzy and Ethan “Am I abusive?” And they had to convince me that I wasn’t. And to this day I get small panic attacks if I suspect that my friends are unhappy with me and not saying something because “Oh my god, did I do something?”
That’s the only time somebody has ever successfully gaslit me.
So no, a flimsy apology with no certainty of change isn’t good enough.
 
Oh look Peet trying to win pity points.
 
http://archive.is/lEWsC
 
anonymous asked:
Honestly, after watching Josh truth video, he is mostly explaining himself. Even though he is dumb as fuck, and never tries to change his ways, I do know he is doing a little better than any of the other analyst, mainly Dr Wolf. He may screwed up in some areas of the video, but at least he tries.
I have in my notes a timestamp for when he explains that the initial prolonged silence on Zak was due to wanting to inform all his friends and colleagues BEFORE Zak could butter them up or the well was poisoned by shitehawks like Horse News.
My notes only say “Why didn’t you say that the first time, instead of all that vague, backpedaling prose about ‘not letting emotions dominate you’?”
This is my third time saying it today, but that is ultimately Josh’s problem. He doesn’t grasp that when he uses neo-con rhetoric about emotions being some kind of bad thing and “facts > feelings”, most people will conclude that he’s just bullshitting to cover his tracks because that’s the kind of rhetoric that a snake-oil salesman would use.
People, including myself, made the connection that he was prioritizing his own comfort over the security of victims, because that’s exactly what that rhetoric says. “#Logic and Reason” is rhetoric used by simpering, far-right crybabies and it would behoove him to avoid using it. Josh is so accustomed to communicating with other Republicans that he doesn’t know how to communicate with actual adults.
Remember last year when I made the claim that Brawny Buck was a neo-nazi and Brawny responded by waxing poetic about people “fearing what they don’t understand”? Well the reason I claimed he was a neo-nazi is because he misgenders trans people, calls being trans a mental illness, and cited a literal neo-nazi (Black Pigeon Speaks) as proof.
If you watch Nazi Youtubers, and you believe the things Nazis believe, what other conclusion is there to come to? If you’re not actually a duck, why are you quacking like one?
Everything in Josh’s original statements were littered with red flags of an enabler and an apologist, largely owing to Josh’s fundamental rejection of the idea that words can be problematic. Josh has ignored every attempt to have his privileged checked, going as far as to accuse the people doing it of abuse, and his dogmatic opposition to what he derides as “snowflakes” and “social justice warriors” has put him in a position where his own attempts to explain himself were the main source of the misinformation he claims happened.
I say claims because every single accusation, from the community complacency to the reliance on God vs actual experience was confirmed in this video. It’s one long string of “Everything Lily said about us was completely, 100% right, hyperbole notwithstanding.”
 
Oh look everyone Lily Peet acting morally higher then everyone even though Patch gave her proof about Toon also
 
and Peet did nothing.
 
anonymous asked:
Have you heard of RWBY and is it worth watching?
Yes
No
 
lastly something less annoying. I would as why you think RWBY isn’t worth watching but knowing you Peet it would
 
be something that was fixed as time went on or the fact RWBY gets darker as the show goes on or something minor.
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@Vortaxonus  
Though it appears the original petition may have been updated to not outright ban Dr. Wolf, Josh, and Silver Quill to simply taking away their Community Guest status. This was pointed out to me recently and I don’t remember this being there before. Doesn’t changed the fact it is filled with misinformation.
Jas

anonymous asked:
Just watched Joshs video. At least he apologised to you and Patchwork. And we got an apology from the Doc from the mouth too. Not one from Silver though. Josh even said about how Toon tried to convince Joshs girlfriend, Amarau, into giving him a second chance. Still, the question is, do you accept the apology?
No. I said before and I’ll say it again: I don’t take apologies. I take results. I’ve had people, Josh included, apologize to me for something they’ve done only to never once correct that behavior. 

This isn’t the first time Josh has thrown wild accusations at me in a rush to discredit criticism, and it certainly wasn’t the worst example of it. And any apology for throwing wild accusations is a hollow one while the worst example of it is still up on his Youtube channel. 

I haven’t talked about this, but Josh’s abrupt accusations of emotional abuse had a severe impact on me. Remember he never said anything to me, not even a one-sided message. There was a vague Tumblr post about “realizing you’re in an abusive relationship” that I saw when I woke up one morning. And when I saw this, I actually messaged him on Skype asking him if he was alright. 

It took an hour to realize I was the one he was talking about. If you’re wondering how that can happen, if you block someone on Skype and DON’T immediately remove them from your contacts, you appear as just “Offline” to them. It was only when Lizzy remarked that he was on “Do Not Disturb” that I learned this, and I confirmed it was me he was talking about by checking my Battle.Net Friends to notice he was absent from it. 

I spent the next few days trying to figure out what the fuck I’d actually done. I was going over a year’s worth of chat logs trying to find something I’d missed. It was only a few weeks later when I read the “Open Letter” from Alex Rochon that I finally found out the reason: I repeatedly challenged him on his ignorant and dehumanizing views. 

To say that I was furious was an understatement. I listened to this guy yammer on about how everyone’s so sensitive these days and nobody can handle being challenged, and when challenged himself he ran and cried and tried to paint me as abusive. And he still was too much of a coward to say it to my face. He had to do it quietly while I was asleep. 

But what I was more furious about was that I spent quite a while doubting myself. Wondering if similar defensive accusations from two other people might have actually had some weight to them. I actually asked both Lizzy and Ethan “Am I abusive?” And they had to convince me that I wasn’t. And to this day I get small panic attacks if I suspect that my friends are unhappy with me and not saying something because “Oh my god, did I do something?” 

That’s the only time somebody has ever successfully gaslit me. 

So no, a flimsy apology with no certainty of change isn’t good enough.
 
I know I already posted this but I just felt like replying to it again because I just remembered something. This
 
is more proof of Peet backpedaling. You see a few days ago someone was defending Josh when Josh had said how Toon
 
was manipulative. Peet basically said Josh is gullible enough to be manipulated by a rock and yet here she is
 
going oh he was the only one to successfully gaslit me.
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@Jas  
Maybe you should bold what the question is.
 
Also; Gotta love how everyone needs to apologize to Peet by groveling and begging, but there’s NOTHING for Peet to apologize for.
 
And what’s that about “discredit criticism?” Oh right, people abuse by Peet can’t be taken seriously.
Jas

@Cyborg_pony
 
Now that I think about it I should quote the question like I do for Peet’s response. That is because Peet is
 
pretty much a do as I say and not as I do type of person. I mean look at how she treats the rest of Toon’s
 
victims. She is pretty much blaming them for Toon not getting punished sooner when again Peet her self had got
 
info from Patch about how horrible Toon was.
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