The Downfall of Bhaalspawn (contains possible SJW discussions)

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I think a lot of people are waiting for KH3 to come out. You know here was something I should of mentioned. Lily

Peet being a jerk to people who got annoyed the last time Final Fantasy 15 got delayed and Peet tried to make it

about GamerGate.
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Honestly this whole TK thing, the drama, the finger pointing, the guilt by association, the calling for banning certain people from conventions. Just this whole negative aura around it is really fucking up my head. To the point where i don’t want to be in this fandom anymore. It’s just bothering the shit out of me at this point.
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here is something Peet related. Oh and one archive had Peet saying no more Glass of Waters till March.

http://archive.is/aT0U9

summer-glitz asked:
’Josh, Wolf and Silver are working on some kind of “apology” video’ Lily, if I may. People who know Josh well, including me, beat him over the head how royaly they fucked up for a long time and drove him to make this video to show they regret how this was handled on a lot of parts and that they’ll try to learn from this. Please, try to look at it and don’t dismiss it right away despite your differences. The least everyone deserves after all that happened is a genuine public apology.

That’s the thing: Apologies only work if you actually take them to heart and learn and change.

I’m a big proponent of “Don’t say sorry, just stop doing it.” And that’s the part I want to see. What I’m telling people is “Look, don’t rush to shower the three of them with praise just because they apologized. They have to change first.”

Even just going through Josh’s Tumblr, I immediately found this.

Shit like this is WHY this happened in the first place. This reflexive need to decry “extremism” in the most vague, easily warpable way possible that just so happens to include everyone who tells him to stop doing terrible things. Josh is every “I’m not racist, but…” argument congealed into a person.

He’s talking about apologies, but does he realize what he did? If he doesn’t, here’s what he did: He saw people being justifiably angry about a horrible situation and decided to blind himself to the nuance and went “Lol! Reals over feels SJews!” He’s been doing that for years, and he’s still doing it.

This is the crap he needs to stop doing if he actually wants to NOT make this fuckup again. He has to look over the last several years of denouncing any complaining as people being “offended” and writing off discussions of systemic problems as “shrill tumblrinas” while simultaneously decrying people who did exactly what you and several others did of abuse and think “…Wow, I was an unbelievable douchebag.”

Because that behavior is WHY he went all “Well Actually” to an abuse victim. Why he tried to keep everything under wraps. Why he immediately made defensive excuses when his complacency was brought up.

I’m skeptical about that kind of change happening. Because that requires throwing away 90% of his entire worldview. This wasn’t an isolated incident. This was the culmination of years of apathy, greed, and complacency. Three things he is astoundingly proud of.

I don’t want to hear words, and I’d be surprised if a lot of other people who mattered wanted to hear it either. What I and many others want to see is him fixing this long list of personality defects.


Before I comment what is missing is Peet screencaping William Shatner calling out the SJW’s who poison the social

justice movement. Anyway Peet you keep forgetting Josh and all of Toon other Ex-friends are just as much victims

as well. Oh and don’t act like you care about Josh because you don’t I mean you are acting like the judge and

jury on everything that has happened during the Toon aftermath and have the gall to say Josh and the others did

nothing when you had also been given info on how horrible Toon was by Patch. You do not mention in a video about

how a year ago you had info and not expect people to find that suspicious. Peet, you do not get to whine about

Josh being apathetic, greedy, and complacent when you monetized you two videos on Toon which had attacks on all

Bronies because tots drawings and fanfics are comparable to real kids getting harmed. You said your self that you

can’t risk not having videos monetized which guess what makes you look money hungry because your talking about a

serious case of someone being outed as a pedo and you are making money off it. I am sure that for Glass of Water-

Blame and Groom and it’s addendum you could of not monetized it because all you did was make money off a very

serious subject matter in which you also slandered Toon’s other victims aka his ex-friends and also slandered

Bronies for having a pedophilia problem because drawings and fanfics. Sorry Peet and Lizzy but despite what you

two think drawings and fanfics do not equal real kids. Speaking of apathy again Peet you had info and you did

nothing because people wouldn’t believe me. Well Peet seems like always slandering people and lying about people

doesn’t do a thing of good huh? well I think this rant is over. Feel free to mention something I failed to talk

about.
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Honestly this whole TK thing, the drama, the finger pointing, the guilt by association, the calling for banning certain people from conventions. Just this whole negative aura around it is really fucking up my head. To the point where i don’t want to be in this fandom anymore. It’s just bothering the shit out of me at this point.


I feel the same.
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I’m tempted to make a counter petition to make sure that Dr. Wolf, Silver Quill, Josh, and everyone else being thrown under the bus with what ToonKritic had done to allow them to continue going to conventions.

The issue is though, I’ve never done a petition before though and I’d want to work out how to word it.
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So this is what I have so far:

Zero Tolerance for Pedophiles, Yet Don’t Ban Former Friends as Enablers.
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Indisputable evidence has come to light that former YouTuber and Brony Analyst ToonKriticY2K is a pedophile and sexual predator. With Skype chat logs proving he had been having sexually explicit chats with a 14 year old girl with other victims coming forth on their experiences.

The majority of the community has come out against him, counting his former friends and those of the Analysit community cutting all ties with him while also contacting the FBI and police, in addition to convention staff to make sure ToonkriticY2K wouldn’t be able to prey on anyone else. They even managed to get him to admit to what he had been done during a Skype call, which is actually very important in getting him arrested.

Some have criticized them for trying to keep things to professional channels, not realizing this information to the public right away, so that the authorities can arrest ToonKriticY2K. This information was leaked, and in a way that was not perhaps for the best for a varity of YouTubers and those of the Brony Fandoms making statements involving the issues as well the stories of many of the victims.

One thing that I have found with many of these videos, from both victims and former friends or those who have meet ToonKriticY2K, is that not only is he a pedophile and sexual predator but likely a sociopath as well. Manipulative, compulsive liar, lack of remorse and shame, grandiose self image, irresponsibility, promiscuous sexual behavior, yet able to convince people to his side and charm others into avoiding punishment, among other traits.

Now, with finger pointing and many wanting to place blame or find scapegoats. This to the point of even banning many of those who had been former friends of ToonKriticY2K despite time and again peoples’ experiences showing that they were manipulated, taken in by his words, didn’t know what was going on, convinced that Toon’s behavior was not as serious, or that he’d change and become better.

I can understand people have been hurt and victims who are seeking vindication, especially since it is unknown at this time if ToonKriticY2K has actually been arrested. Yet this doesn’t mean that former friends should be treated the same as the pedophile and sexual predator by being banned from conventions. Especially since the behavior of one with, at least, sociopathic tendencies can hide criminal behavior from even their closest friends and family.
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Depends on your point of view, my friend. You could see it as he’d try to label the petition as an attempt to silence the victims and allow abuse to continue.

Or take it as a wake up call to those that worship Jerry’s spite that they should reconsider their lives.
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good point but from what I remember someone saying on here that Vida is an attention seeker and a Tumblr Post Vida is virtue singling.

https://osean-kitty.tumblr.com/post/170833814013/peet-didnt-do-nuthin-peet-wuz-a-gud-boy
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One thing I make a point to always do is make sure to use the preferred pronowns based on how Lily Peet claims to identify. Not so much out of respect, but to spite her in not being able to use the arguement that she can dismiss what I say because of misgendering her.

Sure, you want to be properly gendered… Fine, I’m willing to do that. You are still wrong.
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to be honest Peet already has it in her mind all of her critics are jerks. But I mostly call her by her preferred

pronouns because I was just taught to be a respectful person even if said person isn’t nice. Again not that it

matters to someone like Peet who generalizes anyway.
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Sorry to double post but here is food for thought.

https://the-e4b.tumblr.com/post/170845028640/disgusting-is-the-word-i-have-to-say-to-this

Disgusting is the word I have to say to this situation.

I want to say this out right. I do agree with the other side that toons friends could of handle it sooner considering that I was there when Toon shown a lot of his true colors towards people who are below him. That much is true but however, what I am pretty annoyed is the fact that people are going out and accuse them of hiding the pedo thing when no evidence has shown as of yet. It it is true, Someone in their circles would of done so sooner because no matter if your friends with the big wigs, someone will not stand for you if you do defend this action. However this is up to debate but whats not is that the fact that peet use this to try to cover its own ass on the stuff she did. What makes it even more disgusting is that everyone is not siding with him because apparently peet speaks the truth. GUESS WHAT YOU DUMB FUCKS! Peet has done the exact same thing since he join the goddamn community. All of you fall for a trick and guess what, he knows that the other side has a pure hatred to the community because he was spying on every single opponent who was against him as shown in his videos! Look we at this blog condemn toon a lot and hell I fucking called it that he would end up being in this situation, despite pedophilia being the last thing I would consider. But however you guys who just agrees with peet, you are part of the problem as peet is hiding his shit that he did for a long time. Don’t give me that excuse that this situation is different. All parties who dogpile on everyone including friends of his, victims that are reviewers and victims that spoke out of peets hypocrisy, you are all disgusting people who cant seem to be consistent with your thinking. Its very funny, I could of call out toon a long time ago but I was scared to do so. Now it makes even angry to not try to point this out sooner. Because people like peet, you made my total satisfaction of Toon finally getting what is coming into a sour nightmare.

People, please Support and give help to ALL VICTIMS!

Don’t be a bias fuck head and actually help those in need. Toon, peet, and everyone who is throwing lynch mobs and hate. GO FUCK YOURSELVES!

-Animewolfgamer
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