Millennial Dan
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@Bullet Surge  
Hasbro didn’t make anything epic. They just sell toys. Anything good that happens is merely a matter of who they are paying.
 
Incidentally, the Tirek episodes kinda sucked.
Bullet Surge

@Background Pony #ACC7  
Not the fight itself. I mean to say that despite Princess Twilight being made solely for selling merchandise, Hasbro was still able to take this concept and make something epic out of it. i.e, the battle between Twilight and Tirek.
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@Bullet Surge  
How is this executive meddling ? No offense meant,i’m just curious.
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@Background Pony #33A1  
“You just said that people that enjoyed only enjoyed because they enjoyed all of the other episodes”: No I didn’t. I would ask you to read my comment again and stop stuffing my throat until my gag reflex overflows.
 
“To prove a point, if most people hate MMC, they would not react positively to it because that would lose viewership.”: Prove your point? Well, if that point was not understanding youtube audiences. You don’t lose viewers for liking something somebody else doesn’t like unless it’s something offensive or boring.
 
No. Your straw men are the straw men, not you trying desperately to one up me.
Lunalove

Derpy Hooves: ‘At least you’ve got your Delusions of Adequacy left, Flashie m’boy.’
 
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@Background Pony #2A6A  
You just said that people that enjoyed only enjoyed because they enjoyed all of the other episodes - you are either claiming they are blind fanboys or claiming that people who enjoy the show as a whole are the only ones can enjoy the episode. Both are stupid claims.
 
And, reaction videos are an exaggeration of their emotions, but (except on very, very rare exceptions) they are a show of what they think and feel about a development. To prove a point, if most people hate MMC, they would not react positively to it because that would lose viewership.
 
And, it is not strawman to point out the fallacy of your claims. You are just claiming strawman to say MY points aren’t valid.
Bullet Surge

I should also point out that this was the result of “executive meddling.”  
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So what are we arguing about again?
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@Background Pony #33A1  
Oh goodie. An false straw man claim in retaliation of my valid claims. I made an assumption based on what I think. I didn’t put words in anyone’s mouth, which you literally just did… again. “And you are strawmaning people by saying that they can only like MMC if they are blind fanboys.”
 
I don’t need to watch blind reactions to get a general idea what people think, because I’m smart enough to understand that people who do reaction videos exaggerate their emotions.
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  1. Executive meddling will happen in a show about toys. There’s no way around it. It’s about integration into the world. Complaining about executive meddling is stupid and you should expect them to pop up whether as a show piece, flashback piece, or visual gag.
     
  2. So? That doesn’t change what I said.
     
  3. And you are strawmaning people by saying that they can only like MMC if they are blind fanboys. No, again, have you ever watched a blind reactor? A lot of them have episodes they don’t like but still like or love MMC.
     
    And, yes, it IS mostly because of headcanons, cynicism, nitpicking, and overexpectations from people who knew beforehand because they expect the show to “wow” them with a change so they scrutinize and expect the perfect episode. That is how it is - many claim to go in with an open mind but they are really going into judge it weighing one or two problems - usually minor - as a reason to hate the episode.
Pagan

Gay Viking
@Rob50  
Absolutely.
Rob50

Is this worthy of the “drama in the comments” tag yet?
Pagan

Gay Viking
@Pagan
Yeah telling people to go to hell for disliking a character is totally reasonable too.
 
I didn’t agree with him don’t tie me in with him.
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@John23  
>If you really think that a guy shouting crystals like a psychopath is really better than Flash
 
Yup, you got that right, at least he has a backstory. He got more characterisation for 1 episode than Flash for whole 3 movies.
 
>You disgust me and everyone who tries to justify their hate for a cartoon character. In fact, to hell with this fandom and everysingle one of you, I’m tired of bronies being so annoying over the pettiest things. Go to hell.
 
That’s a hell of a assblast you got there, I couldn’t give two shits of what you think about me, m8, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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@Pagan  
Yeah telling people to go to hell for disliking a character is totally reasonable too.
Background Pony #8FCB
@Background Pony #33A1  
Oh oh. Let me try too.
 
  1. Execute meddling for the worse for the sole reason of selling toys which do not by themselves fit the theme of the show the toys are based on is not something which has to be accepted by default.
     
  2. Boring stuff I don’t care about.
     
  3. You straw man him by claiming it’s about his “head canons” despite him never making any such claim. When he in fact makes a perfectly reasonable argument about not rushing major character development. You straw man him more about him being “nitpicky”, “cynical” and “scrutinized every detail”. MMC is widely regarded as the worst episode in the entire series. It has many flaws, and pretending it doesn’t is either dishonest, or just having a low standards.
     
    I would bet that most people who “love” MMC are the people who “love” every episode and everything about the show.
Pagan

Gay Viking
@John23  
It’s just an anon no need to let them get to you.
Pagan

Gay Viking
@John23  
I like Flash but you’re getting a little too worked up go read a book or something and chill.
John23

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@Background Pony #E093  
And your reasons are complete bull or proof of stupidity.  
  1. There will always be executive meddling in a cartoon used to sell toys. ALWAYS. If you don’t think there is or will be you need a reality check. Don’t play make believe that cartoons like MLP are for the fun of it.
     
  2. Of course the staff lied about the leak. They were leaks. Unless the episode leaks they are going to deny it. Do you have no concept of spoilers?
     
  3. You find MMC mostly shit because you went into it with an overexpected, nitpicky, cynical attitude about how they do it. You scrunitized every detail like you never had before and found it lacking because of headcanons and your desire for not wanting it to happen. MMC is a typical MLP episode and is no better or worse than the show usually is. You went into it with a bad attitude and had a bad time, that is your fault.
     
    You ever watch blind reactors who don’t know it’s coming? Mass majority LOVE the episode before it even gets to the wings and loves it afterwards. You are the problem itself so don’t put your make believe quality value in a case of you not wanting something to happen so you look at all the faults instead of the good things.
     
    It’s the same bull that happens with Equestria Girls and Flash Sentry. Hate shipping? Have headcanons? Hate het? You see Flash hate instead of indifference at best. Not to mention going in with this expectation that them being humans and Flash being a love interest has to “wow” you means that any little fault in the movie is going to be scrutinized, nitpicked, and pulled apart. You don’t go in to enjoy it, you went in to judge it - not like a critic or analyst either who have to piece out both virtues and faults.
     
    So, keep your mockery of quality value, of corporate mandates and the inability to see the difference of quality in them, and your foolishness in thinking they won’t lie to you about leak to yourself.
Pagan

Gay Viking
@Background Pony #1728  
Coughradianthopecough “you had me at hello.”
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@atalarikt  
King Sombra is more like Sauron or the Headless horseman from Sleepy Hollow. He doesn’t need monologues.
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@atalarikt  
>just look at King Sombra. Is he any better than Flash Sentry? Is he? IS HE!?  
Actually he kinda is. He was one-timer character villain, not trying to be some ones instant love interest without a reason and development, so yeah it’s safe to say he was better.
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@atalarikt  
In terms of developed character, at least MUH CRYSTALZ over there has a backstory.
 
I can’t say much about YER WAIFU over here, cause I’ve only seen Friendship games.
 
 
@atalarikt  
I sort of went along with it, I know an artist who actually got DT’s family life spot on so it was pretty great to watch.
atalarikt
Artist -

EqG fan + Love Liver
This is a fight nobody can win at all.
 
Seriously, if you guys really hate Flash Sentry, just look at King Sombra. Is he any better than Flash Sentry? Is he? IS HE!?
 
As for Flash, I’m indifferent with him. It’s not like there are worse characters than him.