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Just things that don’t fit with your headcanons.
 
I’ve learned from experience when someone calls in-show events and implications “headcanons”, you’ll never get anywhere with them. Their own headcanons/waifuism is too strong.
 
Have fun arguing with other people in this thread.
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@Background Human  
That scene had to exist no reason other than cinematic purposes. It looked cool so they went with it because either Discord is far FAR weaker than expected or there is barely any ponies in Equestria.
 
Even if it did add up that Discord + All ponies in Equestria actually matched who is to say that the power in Twilight was even close to a equal 25% split between the four of them. Slap wings on Twilight and suddenly she’s close to power as the two beings who’s ages can be measured in centuries?
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@kztxl7  
It’s not stated, but it is shown that the combined power of four alicorns is equivalent to the combined power of every other pony in Equestria (plus Discord!). Do ye math.
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@Vinyl Fluff  
You’re dodging questions.
 
You’re saying she has received no formal training. That is a statement. To make a statement like that you would have to have actual evidence to back that up. So I can assume you can point me to an actual statement saying she doesn’t have that.
 
Even if she didn’t receive formal training, it doesn’t change the possibility that she did SELF-TRAINING. It’s something some people do when they really want to learn something but can’t find or don’t want teachers.
 
Next: I want you to point me to the exact point in the series where it is stated that being the Element of Magic makes you the most magical in Equestria.
 
I want you to state to me the point in the series where the Element of Magic is
 
I want you to point to me where the Element of Magic is stated to give any sort of power boost.
 
I want you to point to me where it is stated that becoming an Alicorn boosts Twilight’s power.
 
You can make all the assumptions you want based on whatever logic you can come up with, but at the end of the day with out actual, genuine evidence they remain as your headcanons and assumptions.
 
You haven’t pointed out any actual inconsistencies. Just things that don’t fit with your headcanons.
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@Vinyl Fluff
We have absolutely no idea what type of training Starlight Glimmer has undergone in order to make herself so magically powerful from the time she was a child to the present. Not only that but it is rare but not unheard of for people to become great and self made, especially if one dedicates themselves to a craft from a young age.
 
You mean besides the fact that Twilight said being so powerful, she needed teaching and directing? I think it’s pretty apparent that Starlight falls into the prodigy trope. She received no formal training but was super-powerful. She lost her best friend to a school. It’s not hard to imagine her distrusting them from then on out. And don’t you think if she had received any formal training, she would’ve mentioned this to Twilight instead of going through all the purely-magic lessons?
 
And unless you can flesh out what being the Element of Magic and becoming an Alicorn has to do with actual canon facts those two points are irrelevant in Starlight matching Twilight Sparkle.
 
You are kidding, right? We watch the same show, right? Being an Element-bearer at the very least indicates your potential. The very Element of Magic itself is Twilight’s cutie mark, even prior to her being born. Sounds pretty damn prophetic to me. And becoming an Alicorn implies an increase of power.
 
I’m getting strong Starlight fanboy vibes off you, and I’m guessing you’ll dismiss everything out of hand regardless, so I’m already going to cut this discussion short. I don’t feel like getting into another argument with a crazed fanboy as if I personally kicked their dog just because I point out some inconsistencies.
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@Mr grump  
Good idea, they’re not going to understand
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@Background Pony #FA0D  
“More episodes than anyone else”?
 
Lets ignore the fact that as a new character to the series main cast, of course she would get more episodes to help develop her in comparison to you know, the characters we’ve already had for 5 seasons.
 
Beyond the two parters, she only had two real episodes in the forms of No Second Prances and Every Little Thing She Does. The opening two parter was a split focus between Starlight and the rest of the cast.
 
You’re literally jumping the gun on this.
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@Background Pony #FA0D  
If you value your free time, I’d let it go if I were you. An arguement with this guy can literally last for days with walls of text stretching off into the horizon (slight exaggeration).
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@kztxl7  
And you then say she’s not taking over the show. Having more episodes than anyone else, getting the focus of the two parters and series, as well as push Twilight and the Mane six into irrelevance is called taking over
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@Vinyl Fluff  
We have absolutely no idea what type of training Starlight Glimmer has undergone in order to make herself so magically powerful from the time she was a child to the present. Not only that but it is rare but not unheard of for people to become great and self made, especially if one dedicates themselves to a craft from a young age.
 
And unless you can flesh out what being the Element of Magic and becoming an Alicorn has to do with actual canon facts those two points are irrelevant in Starlight matching Twilight Sparkle.
 
 
@Josh103  
Which makes sense there is an increased focus on her. She’s a new character.
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@Josh103  
Thats assuming Discord wouldn’t also fight dirty. And we all know he would.
 
Anyway, I think discord is a great foil for Twilight without having to fight her at all.  
One of my favourite things about season 4 was Twilight And discord butting heads every time they conversed.
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@Vinyl Fluff  
Discord is a bad example. Sure he can snap his fingers and win, but he’s just as vulnerable to strong magic as anyone else. If someone at least at the level of Starlight or Sunset ambushed him I’m sure they could win. One v one as you said no, but he’s far from untouchable.
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@kztxl7  
Well G4, media-wise, has been revolving more about Starlight as of late. The complaints are sure to follow.
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@Mr grump
sure. I just wanna see Twilight meeting her match and someone to challenge her in everything. If Starlight fades into irrelevancy I’d be sad, but it’s okay. But Twilight needs a rival though, for real. If not someone who is diametrically opposed to Twilight, then someone parallel to her. Every hero usually has someone to contrast with. Like red and green, they make each other seem more obvious.
If not Starlight, I hope someone else comes along. Sunset can’t do it, she and Twilight already are too much alike. This Shadowlock fellow for the future comic arc (that ties in with S7)…I’m hoping he can prove a real threat to Twilight.
 
The problem with Starlight is she had no formal training yet she’s equal to the Element of Magic who had years of formal training, was Celestia’s prized, personal student and who also ascended to Alicornhood? That doesn’t mix at all. That’s Mary Sue-levels of plot armor on behalf of Starlight.
 
Also, Twilight does have a superior. Discord. One-on-one she doesn’t stand a chance. None of them do. Even Celestia and Luna combined couldn’t take him on. They all needed the Elements of Harmony to seal him. If you’re argument is that she needs a rival continuously present, then Discord doesn’t count, but he’s still very much magnitudes more powerful than her.
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@Mr grump  
sure. I just wanna see Twilight meeting her match and someone to challenge her in everything. If Starlight fades into irrelevancy I’d be sad, but it’s okay. But Twilight needs a rival though, for real. If not someone who is diametrically opposed to Twilight, then someone parallel to her. Every hero usually has someone to contrast with. Like red and green, they make each other seem more obvious.  
If not Starlight, I hope someone else comes along. Sunset can’t do it, she and Twilight already are too much alike. This Shadowlock fellow for the future comic arc (that ties in with S7)…I’m hoping he can prove a real threat to Twilight.
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@Background Pony #FA0D  
It’s adorable watching people like you get this ridiculous idea of Starlight “taking over the show”.
 
I wonder how many more months will this whole thing be blown out of proportion for?
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Called it. Just get everyone else to be useless so Starlight can save the day. I mean fuck the others doing anything right? Starlight’s the only useful one according to both the comic and show writers.
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@Background Pony #1722  
Whatever character development happens in the comic could Be immediately undone by The tv show. The comic is supplemental and reactionary and is probably ignored by the writers working on the show.
 
I don’t care about starlight in the least and am in fact looking forward to the day when she fades into the background and becomes irrelevant. The only thing that would peak my interest reguarding her development is if she bumps into someone she wronged in the past and that person didn’t immediately forgive all the horrible things she did but in fact actively despised her for it.
 
Perhaps she would never be able to earn this ponies friendship and forgiveness due to what she did and starlight would have to accept this. In real life, Sometimes you can’t repair a relationship or earn back someone’s trust and thats something I’d like the show to acknowledge.
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@SuperSonic15  
Luna and Twilight faking it as to fool their opponent?  
 
Never been done in the comics before…
 
(Though seriously, as the presser for the next issue implies, this was a legit turn, and its going to be Starlight that will save the day at the end)
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@Mr grump  
Too bad. I hope Starlight doesn’t grow too much. I really like Starlight due to her immature personality and because she has the potential to be Twilight’s real rival in philosophy, magical talent and approach to problem solving. Like…the Vegeta to Goku.
 
I mean really, Twilight desperately needs to be constantly challenged if we want to see any growth from our main character and I think Starlight could have been that–could still be that, if only the writers were willing to take that path. I don’t want her turning into Sunset 2.0
 
I also just want to see ponies kick ass, and having Twilight Sparkle and Starlight Glimmer go violent against each other is like a match made in Equestria for me–especially considering that Glimmer has marginally improved since their last fight.
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@kztxl7  
I fail to see the logic behind that reasoning.
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@Background Pony #1722  
The more and more Starlight manages to ruffle fans’ jimmies (particularly the ones who can’t just accept Starlight being potentially stronger that Twilight), the more I love her.
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From what spoiler images are on here already, I’m guessing that after being told what to do by Discord in his mind, Luna and Twilight either were captured and brainwashed as well by Accord, or they’re faking it as part of the plan to convince Accord to willingly become Discord again.
 
Now they just need to convince Celestia, Starlight, and the rest of the Mane Six to play along with them to get Accord to see sense and revert back to Discord, or things are just going to get worse from here before they get better.
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Well, Dash could just kick both of them unconscious. On such a short distance neither of them would have a time to cast something… or even react at all. Then tie them up (anti-magic sock included) and store them somewhere safe till the whole mess being sorted out.