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I think it means he wants some bread. :p
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What does “quack quack quack quark quack” mean?
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Let’s see how YOU like it, horsey!!
 
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Ryodraco

@Background Pony #DCF7  
Ignoring that most every “bad/ambiguous” thing is loved by many in the fandom. For instance I am one of the fans who would argue that while it has faults the series has gotten better over time, not worse.
Background Pony #B938
You know, I think I’ve realized a pattern in the show.  
  1. Introduce something bad/ambiguous in the season start  
  2. Turn that into something rage-educing/bad in the season final  
  3. Introduce something worse the next season so the fandom forgets the other bad thing.  
  4. Repeat from step 2 onward.
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A fine example of pony racism.
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you really bug me
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Evil
This is my fetish.
 
I KNEW it. inb4 Mike draws fetish art of Fluffle smacking Chryssi with a flyswatter.
Background Pony #2858
@PonyPon  
As in “deviating from the path”
Background Pony #E813
@Background Pony #A1D7  
No, I’m thinking in a rational scenario. You’re thinking for them with the knowledge that you have that they don’t.  
@Background Pony #A1D7  
I’m going by what the show actually showed
You just proved my point. They don’t get to see all the developments we as the audience are spoonfed. That’s the quintessential thing I’m trying to tell you here. If the changelings COULD just watch the MLP show you would be 100% correct. I’m not saying Thorax or Starlight were lying. I KNOW THEY WEREN’T because I watch the show. The changelings DO NOT.
 
And no, I’m not claiming “they” as in all of them. I’m claiming SOME.  
@Background Pony #8809  
“SOME”. I AGREE. Some may opt for this. Some may betray her. NOT. ALL. OF. THEM. WOULD.
 
Finally, the first few to try didn’t see whether this would stop their insatiable hunger.
 
I’m also not trying to argue whether Thorax’s transformation/truth is impossible or possible. Just that it is something that they’ve NEVER seen before and thus (SOME OF THEM) should be somewhat skeptical/dubious about.
 
No matter how many times I try hammering this in you don’t seem to get this fact so I’m just going to stop reading at this point. This will be my last reply on the matter.
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Ik this is late, but shush.
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This is my fetish.
Background Pony #194F
@Background Pony #8809  
You’re the one thinking for the changelings, claiming that they definitely would have suspected something and not believed the transformation, not me. I’m going by what the show actually showed and giving a plausible explanation of what happened, and unless you can prove that it’s impossible for them to be as trusting of Thorax’s tranaformation as they were, your argument holds no water.
 
Also, I was talking about the first couple to try; once it was shown by the first few that it wasn’t actually a risk, and they could free themselves of both their hunger and a cruel tyrant, it’s practically guaranteed that nearly all or all of them would follow.
Ryodraco

@Background Pony #8809  
The only “tricks” of Trixie’s the changelings fell for were the smoke bombs, and its not clear if they even realized they had been tricked. The idea that they would think she could produce an illusion like Thorax’s transformation and that energy beam without the use of magic and on a time delay that could work while she was unconscious seems to be really reaching to me. Changelings don’t appear to generally think deeply about things to begin with.
 
Also, technically not “all” the changelings tried to transform right after Thorax, just all the ones that saw him do it (and presumably most others were easily convinced later once they saw the transformation and found out Chrysalis had abandoned the kingdom). Why would they not take the opportunity to try it? How would trying be a betrayal?
 
And on that note, the transformed changelings made no move to betray Chrysalis, at most they looked angry over her misleading them. Heck Starlight even implied she could have remained a leader. It was Chrysalis who chose to run away in a rage.
Background Pony #E813
@Prof.NightJack  
Make some magic dust illusion to alter it, add some smoke and mirrors. It doesn’t matter.  
All they need to do is CONSIDER it.  
The same as “Background Pony #A1D7” saying “it’s not like Thorax could have been faking it”. You’re the viewer, you’re virtually omnipotent. The changelings aren’t. Nothing is “clear” to them.
 
@Background Pony #A1D7  
@Background Pony #8809
The idea of Trixie altering it to remove the green flames isn’t something they would necessarily think of. Plus, they saw the huge amount of magic that he shot off at Chrysalis when he did it, lending more evidence to it being legitimate. Also, wasn’t Trixie imprisoned by this point? I don’t think she was available for any possible illusion shenanigans anyway.
Some people will really will jump at such a choice, even when their life is on the line, and each one that jumps in and successfully transforms makes it more attractive to all the others, causing a domino effect.
 
1.) You can’t just speak for changelings. For all you know they are skeptical of ANYTHING having just been invaded and falling victim to these tricks. Who’s to say she didn’t leave any tricks that may go off at a later point? Who’s to say she didn’t teach Starlight or Thorax said tricks? We know Thorax and Starlight is telling the truth and Trixie’s magic isn’t playing a part here. THEY DO NOT.
 
2.) Finally, “SOME”. I AGREE. Some may opt for this. Some may betray her. NOT. ALL. OF. THEM. WOULD.
Prof.NightJack
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@Background Pony #8809  
How would Trixie change it?  
He tricks are stage magic, stuff you have to set up and/or use slight of hand, and she would have to of known a head of time to get it ready and to work without her there to pull it off.  
And it was clear they had no plane going in.
Background Pony #194F
@Background Pony #8809  
The idea of Trixie altering it to remove the green flames isn’t something they would necessarily think of. Plus, they saw the huge amount of magic that he shot off at Chrysalis when he did it, lending more evidence to it being legitimate. Also, wasn’t Trixie imprisoned by this point? I don’t think she was available for any possible illusion shenanigans anyway.
 
Some people will really will jump at such a choice, even when their life is on the line, and each one that jumps in and successfully transforms makes it more attractive to all the others, causing a domino effect.
Background Pony #E813
@Background Pony #A1D7  
Based on? They spent most of the time being fooled by Trixie’s tricks. What’s to say Trixie didn’t alter it so the transformation seemed less “changeling” like? Again, assume that your life is hinging on this choice. Stay with the sure thing and live albeit not in the best state or risk it all on either having a better life or just dying of starvation…
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She’s doing god’s work.
Background Pony #194F
@Background Pony #8809  
I mean, normal changeling transformation produces green flames, so it’s not like Thorax could have been faking it, and the promise of a possible better future can be very enticing.
Background Pony #E813
@Background Pony #E982  
“Replace ‘fear’ with ‘no other option’ and my argument still stands.”
 
Not even remotely… The problem with your argument (and this is what I ALWAYS get so don’t feel bad) is the assumption that THIS BETTER OPTION is even remotely guaranteed.
 
This argument only works if they created a way to prove BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT (which they didn’t for the record) that Changelings could indeed just simply change their lifestyles.
 
See below why just jumping ship would be suicidal for the changelings.
 
 
@Ryodraco  
@Background Pony #E982
The fact that Thorax transformed was evidence enough for them to at least try it.
HOW?! It’s a creature that can TRANSFORM AT WILL. Any of those changelings could’ve transformed into the EXACT same thing Thorax posed as.  
You act as though Chrysalis would be just peachy with them DESTROYING her anti-magic chair/this would not constitute betrayal. W. R. O. N. G.  
Let me remind you that the queen was going to either KILL or EXILE Thorax for his disloyalty. If they tried this and were wrong… THEY. ARE. DEAD. If Thorax/Starlight lied to saved their lives (which would be totally feasible).  
Chrysalis would disown them and Celestia would never just allow them to suck the life out of other ponies so they would starve to death. GAME OVER
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@Prof.NightJack  
Twilight:“WHAT IF STARLIGHT BECOMES A DOMINATRIX!”  
Celestia:”…There is no wrong way to fantasize.”
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@toonbat  
Filtering is also used in a more general sense, referring to anything unwanted being removed, such as in a light filter or a profanity filter. Thus, pure unfiltered evil means pure evil, with none of it removed, or “filtered”.
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Haha ;3.
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@Ardashir  
No, she just said all it takes is one ‘deviant from the herd’.
 
Such a phrase to use, too.