Should I call you sheikh? Which sheikh is your teacher? Which madhab do you follow? Have you read Ibn Sina or Alghazali? Or maybe the works of Jalaluddin Rumi?
No scholar of islam (muslim or not) worth their salt would say something as arrogant as “I have researched islam and the Quran”.
I’m muslim for more than fifteen years, read the quran cover2cover, went thru atheism phase in my edgy college intellectual m’lady phase, precisely because of the verses youn mentioned.
Yet here I am, muslim again. Fully aware I haven’t researched jack shit, haven’t sat with actual scholars nor put the academic rigor towards it.
@Surprise
What I’m saying is not bigotry or “hate speech”, I don’t hate non-violent muslims, I’m talking about the religion they follow. It doesn’t matter how people interpret the Quran, because the Quran still has a lot of violent verses even if people ignore them, and those violent verses are the reason 9/11 happened, the reason ISIS exists etc. Sharia Law comes from the religion itself, the Quran says that gays must die and that women are worth less than men, the Quran also says that muslims must kill non-muslims or else they’ll go to Hell.
@Background Pony #F975
Anyone can be a terrorist, but Islamic terrorism is better reported in order to spread fear and hatred by the media.
I see more Islam apologists than “Islamophobes” in the media. I don’t think Islam is violent just because I hear peope say it is, I’ve researched Islam and the Quran, and the religion and its “holy” and “divine” book is filled with violent verses that tell muslims to kill homosexuals and non-muslims. The religion itself is the problem, the “holy” Islamic texts support what Saudi Arabia, ISIS and the Taliban are doing. Muhammad was a pedophile, a warlord and a sexist, and a lot of muslims believe that all muslims should be like Muhammad, which causes terrorism.
It’s all about how you interpret it; all of the Abrahamic religions have their fair share of violent and of moral passages.
Then you look at the state most of these countries are in, and one wouldn’t be surprised that there are going to be imams that will emphasize the combative parts and rail against infidels as the cause of all their problems.
While there are Christian terrorists around, they seem to exist in smaller numbers and scale, and seem to be contained to their own countries; mostly because by the most part, the socio-political situation hasn’t gotten so bad that organized terrorist movements grow to a uncontrollable level, and then there are also the rhetoric differences to account for; unlike radical imams, in here, most of our radical preachers love America, and want to copy everything that comes from their churches (down to the Jim Crow-style racism); it’s obvious that the terrorists inspired by these fools won’t be a threat anywhere else than their own country.
The first thing I thought of was the earth ponies during the hearths warming tale, I don’t really feel like assuming any sort of malice from the uploaded it’s pretty innocent
Just a sidenote that it’s rather ironic we have some sort of the same backlash people have against those who choose not to wear it in some of the less educated/more indoctrinated pockets in the third world. I find it funny neither side wants to accept that (1) this is actually an optional choice that is imposed by the family (in which patriarchy IS involved as it is a sexist religion) and (2) at least in the context of a more liberal, multicultural world we acknowledge that it is a choice. I will not fail to acknowledge where it is imposed in some countries on the Middle East and on an Indonesian province, but I downplay on how ultimately some people actually identify with it. Kind of like wearing the cross.
But yeah, I guess the joke flew right through everyone but I really can’t blame anyone
@Background Pony #2489
I’m from third world, muslim. My ma don’t wear hijab, my sis don’t wear hijab, my cousins and aunties don’t wear em, but they don’t talk shit about those who do and I won’t either. You will get opposition from me because I support women’s rights to wear it.
Since I support people permanently poking holes or inking in their bodies to express their individuality and sexuality, I will also support women who willingly take the modest path of the hijab to express their religiosity and suppress their promiscuity.
Live and let live. Just because women can work the same jobs as men these days thanks to the hard work and sacrifices of feminists, doesn’t mean we should shun women who chooses traditional routes.
I won’t belittle the anecdotal experiences of your friends, but I will NOT let you ignore anectodal experiences of women who chooses to wear them.
BP-2489 and BP-F47A, I will be your opponent from now on!
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You and I. We ain’t cool.
So you have researched muslim and islam, hm.
Should I call you sheikh? Which sheikh is your teacher? Which madhab do you follow? Have you read Ibn Sina or Alghazali? Or maybe the works of Jalaluddin Rumi?
No scholar of islam (muslim or not) worth their salt would say something as arrogant as “I have researched islam and the Quran”.
I’m muslim for more than fifteen years, read the quran cover2cover, went thru atheism phase in my edgy college intellectual m’lady phase, precisely because of the verses youn mentioned.
Yet here I am, muslim again. Fully aware I haven’t researched jack shit, haven’t sat with actual scholars nor put the academic rigor towards it.
What I’m saying is not bigotry or “hate speech”, I don’t hate non-violent muslims, I’m talking about the religion they follow. It doesn’t matter how people interpret the Quran, because the Quran still has a lot of violent verses even if people ignore them, and those violent verses are the reason 9/11 happened, the reason ISIS exists etc. Sharia Law comes from the religion itself, the Quran says that gays must die and that women are worth less than men, the Quran also says that muslims must kill non-muslims or else they’ll go to Hell.
I see more Islam apologists than “Islamophobes” in the media. I don’t think Islam is violent just because I hear peope say it is, I’ve researched Islam and the Quran, and the religion and its “holy” and “divine” book is filled with violent verses that tell muslims to kill homosexuals and non-muslims. The religion itself is the problem, the “holy” Islamic texts support what Saudi Arabia, ISIS and the Taliban are doing. Muhammad was a pedophile, a warlord and a sexist, and a lot of muslims believe that all muslims should be like Muhammad, which causes terrorism.
True:3
Say that to all of the school shooting “statistics” inflated by the media to push their agenda.
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@Background Pony #F975
It’s all about how you interpret it; all of the Abrahamic religions have their fair share of violent and of moral passages.
Then you look at the state most of these countries are in, and one wouldn’t be surprised that there are going to be imams that will emphasize the combative parts and rail against infidels as the cause of all their problems.
While there are Christian terrorists around, they seem to exist in smaller numbers and scale, and seem to be contained to their own countries; mostly because by the most part, the socio-political situation hasn’t gotten so bad that organized terrorist movements grow to a uncontrollable level, and then there are also the rhetoric differences to account for; unlike radical imams, in here, most of our radical preachers love America, and want to copy everything that comes from their churches (down to the Jim Crow-style racism); it’s obvious that the terrorists inspired by these fools won’t be a threat anywhere else than their own country.
Anyone can be a terrorist, but Islamic terrorism is better reported in order to spread fear and hatred by the media.
You’re right, “muslim” doesn’t mean “terrorist”, but the RELIGION muslims follow is causing terrorism, Islam is violent.
True:3 I love Stsrlight Glimmer
this is more like a European headscarf.
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Now, that’s a funny joke.
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your current filter.But yeah, I guess the joke flew right through everyone but I really can’t blame anyone
I’m from third world, muslim. My ma don’t wear hijab, my sis don’t wear hijab, my cousins and aunties don’t wear em, but they don’t talk shit about those who do and I won’t either. You will get opposition from me because I support women’s rights to wear it.
Since I support people permanently poking holes or inking in their bodies to express their individuality and sexuality, I will also support women who willingly take the modest path of the hijab to express their religiosity and suppress their promiscuity.
Live and let live. Just because women can work the same jobs as men these days thanks to the hard work and sacrifices of feminists, doesn’t mean we should shun women who chooses traditional routes.
I won’t belittle the anecdotal experiences of your friends, but I will NOT let you ignore anectodal experiences of women who chooses to wear them.
BP-2489 and BP-F47A, I will be your opponent from now on!