@Beau Skunky  
Fuck yeah man! I once wrote ill stop being a brony when i die, and this is our booru.  
Marry Sues are supposed to be perfect, so having characters that are not perfect means they generally do a good job on the writing.  
I am here for the pony content and loving embrace of the fans. Starlight being the object of my obsession is just a plus.

@radostt  
Yeah, honestly none of the characters feel like an author avatar, or “creator’s pet to me.” Closest would be Twilight, but even she isn’t perfect, and accidentally causes trouble, and such herself.
 
The show isn’t perfect, but I still love it, and I’m happy to be a brony.

@Beau Skunky  
I didn’t even feel the need to defend the fact Sunset is cannon. Starlight isn’t perfect, that’s why she isn’t a merry sue. Twilight realizes her potential more then she does.  
Merry sue more refers to you know, bad writing. Where the character is a manifestation of your own ego.  
Like i said, its like we didn’t even watch the same show as Redweasel.

@redweasel  
I’ve seen plenty of both, but I see more anti-this, or that fans, and if they have a right to complain, I think people have a right to criticise their behavior too, if they are the ones getting out of line. I used to be a Starlight hater, but I kinda regret it honestly.
 
What broken continuity? I can’t even think of any contradictions, and honestly there isn’t that much in the show besides Season openers/finales, and special occasions like the CMC getting their marks.
 
Also, the term “Mary-Sue” gets thrown around so much at every female character, people don’t like, (some even call Twilight that) that it’s lost all it’s meaning on me.
 
Sunset is canon, she just sticks to the EqG series/world, but she came from Equestria. She also cameos in the series finale. Can’t get more canon then that.

@redweasel  
When she lead her team to defeat queen chrysalis.  
Taking over the school of friendship for twilight.  
Tring to make friends with maud  
Helping Trxie perform a duo act in saddle Arabia.  
responding to when the map called Sunburst and Starlight to mend their relationships with there parents.
 
People don’t like themselves, and they shun things that make people different like mental disability.  
You contradicted yourself by saying if they do project onto her then why don’t they like her. Its barbecue they are projecting you even admit its a stretch to call her a psychopath.  
Why are people stretching the truth? Its because they are sheeple. Most people put greed first so they think she wants more then to just be friends. ♥

@radostt
 
the awful thing about mary sues is that they are full of flaws, but the author always has to write that they aren’t. a sue can be self-centered, impulsive, and socially inept, and if this is all either made unimportant or a good thing that gives her all the attention, then she’s a mary sue. anyway, I was mostly just joking. I don’t really think starlight is a mary sue, compared to say for instance princess mi amore cadenza. starlight is heavily steeped in authorial ego, though. the problem is where the writers forget that the story isn’t real, and avoid good storytelling that would have anything about that character go bad.
 

people think she’s a psychopath because they project real world mental disabilities on her. why would that make them dislike her? she’s the most adorable little psychopath. ♥
 

it is a stretch to call her a psychopath. but I like to be optimistic about it. when did she ever put her friends before her own needs?

Conclusion, fans project way to hard on Starlight Glimmer. Its like we didn’t even watch the same show; believe in redemption don’t be so cynical. Place friendships at the top of your priorities and ask questions like do my fiends think I am a good friend.

@Beau Skunky  
Thank you, their are only so many pony models, so i wont even defend saying ponies looks the same. Its either a good model or it isn’t.

@redweasel  
Mary Sue is a term used to describe a fictional character, usually female, who is seen as too perfect and almost boring for lack of flaws, originally written as an idealized version of an author in fanfiction.  
if she is flawed, then she aint no marry sue. She is just really powerful and doesn’t plan everything through.  
you missed that part where she realized to putting aside her differences to become friends, and the fact that she feels remorse.  
“self-centered, impulsive, and socially inept.” She needs to learn when to not use magic for friendship problems, there are no shortcuts.
 
So what I take from this is people don’t like Starlight Glimmer because they project real world mental disabilities onto her?  
If Starlight is selfish, why would she spend most of her time helping other ponies? If she is psycho why does she feel remorse or put her friends before her own needs?

@Beau Skunky
 
in all fairness, the show creators have broken their own continuity left and right since season 1. feeling pinkie keen, swarm of the century etc. also cozy had a giant ball of magicky death to aid in capturing starlight. I could care less whether starlight or sugar belle’s design is recycled, though I do think starlight’s hairstyle looks kind of dumb, but that sort of fits her dorky personality. honestly, I have run into a whole lot more fans complaining about the fans who take their hatred too far, than I’ve run into any fans who actually do take it too far. and sunset shimmer is not canon.

Double post…

@redweasel  
In fairness, she did get captured by Cozy, a child, so she can’t be that O.P.  
And her character developed a bit gradually over the next season/s. (And arguably, she’s not the only character with a hurried reformation. Sunset Shimmer got zapped by a magical friendship rainbow, and suddenly became a whole different character. Kinda gives it a bit of “lobotomization” vibe.)
 
And in regards to that “she’s a recolored Sugar Belle,” honestly, if you wanna dig that deep every pony looks the same, but with different colors/hair/eyes.
 
I recall, Sugar Belle got some hate to, but for sinking fans’ ‘ships. So while I understand we can’t love every character, some fans take it too far, or hate characters for odd/lame reasons.

@radostt
 

well aside from the fact that she’s an overpowered continuity breaking mary sue that nobody outside of DHX wanted to happen…
 

they think she should be punished more, because DHX were idiots and summarized her rehabilitation in a 2 minute 80’s montage. fans never got to see her improve, so it was jarring when she was suddenly welcomed by the main 6. fans didn’t have a problem with starlight then, but felt the 6 were being railroaded out of character by DHX just to crowbar her into the spotlight.
 

they think she is a psychopath because she’s very self-centered, impulsive, and socially inept. she does display some hauntingly similar tendancies to real life psychopaths, who certainly can learn to act like they’re redeemed. it would be a real stretch to call her a psychopath, but that’s part of the fun of fanon, is taking things far beyond their logical conclusion.
 

pony manes should always be perfectly quaffed! it is an affront to nature to have to comb them! down with starlight glimmer, and her changing hairstyles! down with starlight glimmer! boo!
 

she’s sugar belle with a blue stripe.
 

it’s fine if you like her. it’s also fine if people don’t like things that you like. personally, I feel like dhx did a good job of developing her character after that initial hiccup. but you should at least understand why people might dislike starlight glimmer.

@Background Pony #387E  
I just don’t see why people dislike her so much. I have even read about why people dislike her, they think she should be punished more, and they think she is a psychopath from it. Starlight is actually one of the most caring ponies in the show, the writers have a tendency to write out of character so they can learn a lesson about something they already know. A huge theme in the show is redemption, and punishing Starlight without giving her a change would go against the shows morals. She gives up basically all her time to help her friends. Plus she brings combing spells to the show. Starlight also believes in redemption. On top of all that, Starlight has a really good model and a magical cutie mark. Starlight is chaotic good and incredibly adapt and magic and is super smart. Plus she is a leader and the time she doesn’t spend with her friends she spends studding and helping other ponies.

Glad I got into the show post season 3.

@Background Pony #387E  
I used to be one… I regret it now…
 
In fact, I’m glad I didn’t quit the show, because then I would’ve missed out on some entertaining/funny/cute episodes/moments, and memes. Also, quitting the show over one character is kinda petty.
 
And if it wasn’t “Starlight ruining the show,” so-called-fans would find other scapegoats like the “School Six,” or even Flurry Heart to justify themselves. (Y’know? That baby we hardly ever see?)  
Heck, some felt Cadance & Shining Armor ruined the show, and we hardly ever see them either.

I really dislike Starlight haters.  
They are the worse.

@Background Pony #FFB5  
God, I loved that episode.

Well, he’ll be missing the riot that is A Better Way To Be Bad, so it’s his loss I suppose.

@Perteks  
@Background Pony #8AE0  
Debatable… I liked the later seasons just fine personally.
 
I really tire of the whole, “Only early installment wins” mindset. (It reminds me of Star Wars, and Sonic fans, and such.) Honestly, looking back at earlier Seasons, they weren’t perfect either, and I remember drama over some episodes like “Mare Do-Well.”

@Background Pony #8AE0  
It was kinda late place to stop but better there than going for the rest

“Three season behind”
 
That was a good place to stop.

Awwww, idk what had got into him