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besides, what more argument you want? i already said to you all what i wanted to say (if the killing joke didn’t existed, i wouldn’t reply you back in first place)
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Long story short: The multiverse is [REDACTED]ing weird!
 
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I don’t think he’s continueing…whatever arguement you guys were having in that comment.
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i am not talking with you anymore, i am playing with molestia.
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I take it you had no actual argument to make, and have simply been wasting time.
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and don’t forget that universe where they are fish, or that other were they are cats, or that other one were they are humans, but their world is the same as equestria prime, with magic and everything.
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And the universe where she’s a dinosaur.
 
Yes. Dinosaur Mlp is indeed canon.
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there is an universe were Sunset became the element of magic and saved equestria, just like there is another universe where she was never born, or another were she failed to defeat NM, or another were she and twilight are sisters…  
the possibilities are endless, every moment a pony chooses another universe where the other choice happened is born…  
is pointless…existence is pointless…not action has a true meaning…except this one…  
BLOWN EVERYTHING!
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That’s splitting hairs, but moving on…
 
Really, in most superhero TV shows, the entire rogues gallery falls into the category we’re talking about here. How many villains are given any history at all in Teen Titans? Batman? Avengers? Etc. The enemies they face are pretty much always presented “as-is”, which makes them as faceless as a storm-trooper.
 
Again, it’s perfectly realistic for someone to have some reason for their behavior, WITHOUT it devolving into a wangsty “excuse”.
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Normal sunset promptly alicorn bitched slapped her.
 
This turned out to be the mirror version of th Comic mirror arc.
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inb4 in the equestria-3 comic sunset appears and she is 100% nice.
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and speaking of allan moore, have some laughs  
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Not at all. I prefer it that way.
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Meanwhile in like…the 5th alternate universe.
 
Nightmare Moon wins. Sunset was a [REDACTED]ing dick and joined the bad guy after a blatant lie about making her an alicorn.
 
The others went to work in the salt mines.
 
Celestia quickly regretted her decision of ever making her her personal student.
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but it exists, if the killing joke didn’t existed, you would be right about the joker being evil for the hell of it 100% of the time (though that is his most popular version).
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That is merely one of many interpretations of him. Most of the time, he’s just evil for the heck of it.
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The most famous would be the Joker, of course. A certain line from The Dark Knight describing him in that way is in common usage these days.
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really? mention some villains (or jerks) who are evil (or jerks) just for the hell of it.
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Hardly. Fiction is over-saturated with them, which is annoying because it doesn’t have any particular parallel in the real world. EVERYONE has a reason for what they do, whether that reason is insanity, stupidity, or the influence of evil.
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wait, i can mention one, the Lich from Adventure Time, who is evil just because he is pure evil incarnate.
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actually, today is very hard to find a villain that is evil just for the hell of it.
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The key word you’re not understanding is excuse. A Freudian excuse would only be valid if the character’s behavior is being portrayed as an inevitable outcome of their difficult past. Fluttershy had a tough past, but did she turn out badly? Not really, but it did affect her. Sunset could have easily had a difficult past as well, but how she responded to it was her own choice.
 
If every villain you came across was simply a jerk who wanted to take over and treat everyone badly for absolutely no reason at all, it would get pretty boring. Giving them a past is not the same as giving them an excuse.
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the act of giving an antagonist a sad background to explain they current behavior, maybe they lost their parents, had a hard childhood, were abused by the community, etc.
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Dude, you don’t even know what a “Freudian Excuse” is…
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is just too hard for you to accept she was a bitch without any Freudian excuse?