CaptainGame

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You’ve said in other comments you understand why someone wouldn’t enjoy the gender roles society pins on them, right? I think it’s just an extension of that: Someone feels so uncomfortable with how people view them when they see they’re one gender that they come to the conclusion they’d be more comfortable identifying themselves as the other… The difference between this and the gopher thing is that the feelings of the person in question can be explained out, I’d say…
Twisty

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I simply believe those people are just kookoo.
 
Iunno, i can get transexuals considering we still talking about humenx, but otherkin just strike too much in insanity border with the im a pidgeon, im a croc.
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You do know such things as otherkin exists, right? Because such things as otherkin exists, and while I do believe Gender Dysphoria to be a real, not invented thing, I can’t help but noticed the similarities between it and people claiming to be dogs, lizards, or motherfucking gryphons.
 
Fucking hell, I need a drink.
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“Gopher People aren’t real.” That’s just what the Gopher People want you to think. But I’m onto their game. When they rise up against the surface dwellers… I’ll be ready.
 
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@sigh  
Gopher People aren’t real, man. Men and women are.
*sigh*
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Oh boy, I can’t wait until that Gingerbread Man picture is posted again, it almost always is in threads like these.
 
In any case, Tenafly, how do we determine what is ludicrous and what is “normal” to be wrong inside? As I’ve mentioned in the past, if someone was to claim that even though they were born human they just KNOW deep inside that they’re actually a gopher, I fail to see how that’s any different from what we’re talking about here.
 
People nowadays just turn off the rational side of their brain in favor of the emotive whenever sex and sexuality-themed topics come up so as to not seem bigoted, and this permissiveness is probably one of the reasons that things have gotten so insane lately.
paluzna

@a6p  
ALWAYS.
 
@twistedmetalero  
@a6p  
if we are going whit “sexual identity/Gender Identity” then the pic it is indeed a ‘motivational message’ instead of a mouthpiece. :V  
if we were going whit any of the others, i think it would fit the definition of mouthpiece.  
pretty sure twistedmetalero was talking whit the later in mind.
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I’m starting to recognize a lot of names.
 
Is it always the same people who rise up to argue in threads or something?
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@Background Pony Number 17  
Dumping on someone for not conforming to who you think they should be doesn’t obligate anyone to take you seriously either.
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@Background Pony Number 17  
And what do you gain by not allowing them their own gender identity?
 
As long as it’s not something absolutely ludicrous that’s clearly made up for attention, I don’t see why you wouldn’t allow someone the right to be who they feel like on the inside.
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@paluzna  
Gender: Depends on context: either referring to your biological sex, or your sexual identity.  
Gender Identity: Identifying as either male, female, intersex, neither, gender fluid, etc. Not synonymous with sexual orientation.  
Gender roles: Socially prescribed roles typically based on your biological sex.  
Sex: Whether you produce sperm (male) or ova (female).
paluzna

@a6p  
@twistedmetalero  
what do you guys understand by “gender”?
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You can choose whatever gender you like.
 
That doesn’t obligate anyone to take that choice seriously.
Twisty

@a6p
 
at this point you are pretty much just looking for anything to disagreee with even trough its not what i said, and keep ignoring what i try post again and again.
 
unsuscribed.
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@twistedmetalero  
It’s not “pushing an opinion” on others to express it in a way that you disagree with. Pushing an opinion is trying to persuade somebody of an opinion when they don’t want to have the discussion.  
The 3 latter pics could arguably be supporting an agenda. This pic could arguably be just a character saying something inspirational.
 
@twistedmetalero  
So you’re OK with it when you agree with it. That’s telling.
Twisty

@twistedmetalero
 
i mean to be fair, im ok with out of charecterizations every once in a while, but not when they like said before, are only for people to agree with an agenda
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@twistedmetalero  
I think it’s time for a FREE MUMIA Fluttershy mouthpiece pic.
Twisty

@a6p
 
except like i have explained before, i hate mouthpieces that push an opinion the artist has, the pictures you show me are just characters saying something inspirational and in character, (not much the first one, but its not pushing an opinion) not the ponies screaming “ FREE GHaNDI” or something.
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@twistedmetalero  
somehow saying its stupid to… bully straight people
 
You didn’t say it was stupid, though. You said “don’t do X.” You’re of course free to tell others they shouldn’t, but you gave no justified reason to (and telling others what to do is not an opinion). I’m also very free to tell you (or imply) that what you said is stupid (or in this case, the wrong position to advocate).
 
I don’t see why it’s offensive (and yes, you were offended**) to use ponies as a “mouthpiece.” You should be offended by what’s said, not the one supposedly saying it. Go bitch about these “mouthpiece” images, if gimmicks really get to you:  
>>570631  
>>570931  
>>551124  
>>518368
 
Of course I hardly said anything better, in the very least I gave a reason why you shouldn’t. I do see the unintentional irony of my post: it was badly worded.
 
Offended: resentful or annoyed, typically as a result of a perceived insult.  
-Google dictionary
 
You’re overreacting to a harmless image. This is bullying no one. There’s nothing wrong with saying “what being a ‘girl’ or ‘boy’ means is up to you.” This image implies nothing about straight people (as being straight doesn’t necessitate that you believe in a strict gender binary), and I’m not sure if I should blame you for having a dumbass moment, or SJWs for muddying the waters this fucking badly.
Twisty

i mean why its so hard to use your own ponysona, its your opinions might as well be you the one who voices them.
Twisty

@a6p
 
  1. i dont like scoots that much, im not offended at all, it requires far far mroe then that to offend me
     
  2. free country is a double edge sword, im free to voice my opinion about whatever subject i want too.
     
  3. somehow saying its stupid to use chars who probly dont have any idea about this thing, in order to push your own agenda like it was a gimmick makes me worse than the people who discriminate and bully straight people.
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@a6p  
You’re right. It is a free country (in general, anyway). That therefore means that he also has the right to express his opinion, whether or not you like it. So, take your own medicine, I guess?
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@twistedmetalero  
It’s a free country. Don’t tell others what to do just because you’re offended that they used a character you like to send a message. It makes you no better than tumblr SJWs.
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