@Background Pony #109D
“No, what frustrates me is that we’ve BEEN complaining about this FOR TWO YEARS! I like her better as an alicorn.”
So in other words…
‘Everyone who disagrees with my opinion that the show’s direction is perfect must leave the fandom entirely!!!’
Am I doing you right? Seriously, just like Ponypon said, calling the fandom whiny means NOTHING coming from you. If anything, you are one the biggest examples of WHAT you complain about. You and people like you are possibly the biggest SOURCE of the division in the fandom.
Is it the reviewers that say some things are badly written and explain why? Only partially…decisions with bad writing or potentially bad writing are ALWAYS going to get flack. But you are the part of the group making the biggest problems…the group that doesn’t want any critisism of the show to exist, and treat people with differing opinions violently and ask them to leave like toddlers.
People like me can find things they don’t like AND things we DO like even when the writing gets bad at times.
Heck I don’t even hate Twilight’s character, I think she can still progress past her Celestia-obsession stage in life, and still remain herself and improve upon her worst traits like the other Mane have, especially Dash (since she morally grey at the beginning and went from the town show-boater to the natural leader everyone in Ponyville looks up to on merit and charisma alone)
Sure there are people who say ‘everything is bad now!’…But you are a person incapable of finding a middle ground on the OPPOSITE side of the spectum, and there are FAR too many of you.
TL;DR version: …Deal with it.
@PonyPon
I know what you mean. I don’t even know what they are even planning for post-S4 after the giant castle plot point. S5 seams so pointless now that they’ve deemed Twilight of all people the wisest about friendship in the land. A part of me wishes they’d only continue the comics for a very long time.
I mean, a new fresh direction for the show would be preferable, but to say Hasbro is ungodly stubborn is an understatement.
No one should get criticism for simply asking for good writing afterall. (shrug)
@CronoM: “DHX works together with IDW to create the story arcs”
Everything I have ever seen about the creative process in the comics states that the writers and editor come up with the story, then run it by DHX to make sure it doesn’t conflict with anything they’re doing. Where do you get that DHX is helping create story arcs for the comics?
No, what frustrates me is that we’ve BEEN complaining about this FOR TWO YEARS! I like her better as an alicorn. I like the fact they only have her act like a princess WHEN IT’S NECESSARY FOR THE PLOT!
@PonyPon
Personally, I find it true. This fandom is composed of the biggest, whiniest, spoiled hypocrites I have EVER had the misfortune of encountering.
@PonyPon
That’s it. This fandom is doomed all because of ONE FUCKING THING. You guys freak out because Twilight get wings and you freak out because she’s still treated as the same character. MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MINDS.
Here’s a bright idea. Everyone who thinks this is such a big fucking deal please kindly LEAVE THE FANDOM AND FIND A NEW HOBBY. You know what? I HOPE this is the final season because we as a fandom are composed of the biggest spoiled brats ever made.
@Background Pony #93B4
Over time with good writing maybe, which is in short supply at Hasbro right now. And if they started early. But there was already a story with better writing, clearly stating that she didn’t feel comfortable with the direction her life was going because of Celestia making her a princess after a moment of clarity.
As most comic reader bronies know, DHX works together with IDW to create the story arcs so the episodes and the comics don’t write the same story by accident.
@Trickquestion
Although I agree her personality is completely unsuited to be a princess, the kind of princess that thinks for herself that is in contrast, as RaineV1 pointed out, it wouldn’t take much alteration to her character to simply choose not to be Celestia’s puppet…all she’d have to do is have a few moments of clarity and grow a spine.
She’d still be the same adorkable magic-wielding nerd we all love, but she’d be self motivated in what she wants to do. I am eager to see that is S5, cause there is literally nothing she can do at the moment in the same direction beyond being made princess of the entire kingdom. They’ve already amplified her entitled status to the nth degree with a gaudy Castle in the middle of Ponyville, to the point where people don’t treat the word ‘Mary Sue’ about Twilight as Godwin’s Law anymore.
@RaineV1
Although I’d have to agree with PonyPon in regards to what you said. After guards panicked and turned to the 4th princess after Celestia and Luna were captured, the show made it pretty clear being able to rule, while not immediately necessary, WAS in job description. The fact she has no self-motivation and little charisma is kind of glaring
@Trickquestion
Actually, I’d say Twilight is suited just fine to be a princess. The problem comes fans thinking that princess means ruler. In monarchies not all royals hold the same amount of power, regardless of having the same title.
At best Twilight is a minor lord that oversees Ponyville (a place she has proven that she can keep organized and defended) and the Everfree Forest, and happens to be part of the actual rulers’ inner circle of advisers. This is a role that Twilight is suited for just fine.
@Background Pony #1D47
Twilight’s character would have to be completely re-written, since the personality she’s had for the entirety of the show up to this point is highly unsuited to being a princess. It could be done, some sort of arc where Twilight trains and studies and stuff, but she wouldn’t be the character we came to like, and given the way this show works, it would almost certainly be handeled poorly.
@TheAbridgenator
“but it’s not just her anymore. Heavy is the head that wears the crown, but it must be borne”
Says who? You? Celestia? The words “You are a princess” means absolutely nothing in the long run if they come from a kcewed viewpoint. Even the show managed to point out that Luna thought Celestia’s viewpoint was skewed in Crystal Empire part 1.
Also putting Celestia in Gendo Ikari’s place, while not on the nose completely, is NOT helping your case. Twilight’s dependence on Celestia is so drastic, I’m having a hard time finding another protagonist that so unhealthly codependent on his/her teacher. “Celestia just like US!?” She’s basically a cultist in a sense, with Celestia as her core motivation for living her life in the show.
“As for Spike factoring into this? Ha. Hahahahah. Spike isn’t even a player in the game when he tallied all of one score on the board. If Celestia is Goku and Twilight is Gohan and Iron Will is Hercule…then Spike is effing YAMCHA on that list.”
Again, your incredible bias is showing how weak your arguments are. Twilight’s common sense is barely even functional without Spike around half the time, and she treats him like a servant a third of the time, if not more.
Twilight is not a complete Shinji but she is hardly a Gohan either. She is infinitely more weak-willed…. The writers basically want Twilight to be Sailor Moon right now….more booksmart, just about as much common sense, and all the entitlement in the world.
