Season 7 Episode Discussion [Speculation, Discussion, Spoilers] (SPOILER YOUR LEAKS)

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With the bullies it’s probably just a case of not finding anything to do with them. I mean, they were created solely to tease the CMC for being blank flanks, hell, my theory about the “one speaking role per foal” thing may actually be correct. As for Babs, her VA is more or less missing and could be in Hyrule for all we know, and they’re not allowed to replace her (That’s why Tara Strong can’t just stop working on Teen Titans Go AFAIK, the show can’t go on without her) and One Bad Apple being 4th worst episode (and I actually want to see Josh review it now, will it get that coveted D- that even Boast Busters failed to fall down to?) certainly isn’t helping.
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So I just saw episode. I read some comments on here and 4chan before watching and wasn’t sure how much I’d like it. Despite my worries, I found it really enjoyable, maybe even one of my top 5 for the season.
 
Pros:
 
  • There were some genuinely hilarious and clever lines. I laughed out loud a few times.  
  • It’s great to have another episode that centers around the mane 6 with Twilight at the center. Almost gave it a similar feel as an episode from an earlier season.  
  • Rather than being insulted, I mostly enjoyed how they poked fun at the fan base.  
  • Really loved the song. Probably going to be listening to it several times in the next few days.
     
     
    Cons:
     
  • Some of the dialogue felt forced. The part where ponies were laughing at Pinkie saying mundane things was awkward and not in an enjoyable way.  
  • The last part with the fillies was somewhat of a mixed bag for me. On one hand, I totally get the message that the show is ultimately about friendship and that some people could stand to take the show’s lessons to heart. On the other hand, it almost felt like they were trying to insult people who put priority on things like character and story. Not that that was their intention but that’s almost how it came off.
     
    Other thoughts:
     
  • No attempt at subtlety was made in this episode. Not sure if a more subtle approach would have made it better but I appreciate that the writers are willing to take risks.  
  • Was expecting this episode to be more nostalgic and sentimental. What I got instead might be the most cynical episode the show has had yet. Again, pretty risky but ultimately rewarding, at least for me.  
  • This episode will likely be inconsequential to the rest of the series. The events of this episode are unlikely to be brought up again and all the raging mobs of fans will not be making more appearances. It’s a lot like Slice of Life in that way.  
  • Before watching it myself, I saw many who felt that the episode was specifically trying to insult the adult fans of the show. This assertion fell apart for me as the episode clearly shows many children (including the CMC!) who also misunderstood the journal.
     
    Overall:  
    The comedy and music were definitely the biggest highlights. The blurred line that often exists between insults and playful banter (in general, not just this episode) makes it even funnier for some and straight up insulting for others. As long as you don’t take any of it personally (which you shouldn’t) than this was really solid.
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You know, I honestly feel like the only problem with today’s episode is that the type of people who could most benefit from the lesson it’s trying to teach are also the least likely to try to understand what it’s trying to say.
 
Either that or they didn’t watch it because a certain character was present.
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I still believe this episode was originally written with Spike instead of Starlight.
 
That moment where Starlight wanted to have a “talk” with the ponies who insulted Rarity seemed like a very Spike thing to do.
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@rdibp  
Maybe. Honestly Starlight was…inconsequential? I wouldn’t say she needed to be in the epsiode at all but all of the funny and important shit would happen with the mane six. So, even if you don’t like Starlight the episode is worth watching for the laughs.
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@rdibp  
Having Spike not be a part of the episode is better.
 
Cause everyone likes to complain about Spike not being there.
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Can I say the sound condemnation of the pony fandom(that is, the ponies that were fans) would have been less jarring if the complaints they had were a bit crazier?
 
Like, I’ve heard more than enough that only an extremist(and what topical terminology we’re using there) would feel insulted by this, but many of the ponies’ talking points were pretty moderate and debatable, and sounded more irrational when applied to living people and not cartoons.
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@Applejack007  
This, I very much enjoyed Fame and Misfortune. I felt Starlight’s inclusion didn’t affect my enjoyment of the episode. More, surprisingly enough, I actually felt her being there worked in a few places… so making her a positive to the episode? Yes, not even I can fully believe it. Most thankful of all, she stayed out of focus while the episode kept itself on the Mane Six.
 
She wasn’t a spotlight stealer nor was she intrusively inserted I feel.
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@PonyPon  
No you can’t. Anyone who criticizes this episode in any regard is wrong. The show said so.
 
 
 
I think I just applied Poe’s Law to myself cause even I can’t tell if I take my own comment seriously or comically.
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@PonyPon, @Prof.NightJack  
Okay fine, then how about this.
 
What condemnation do you speak of with the ponies in the show who were fans of the Mane Six and their Friendship Journal? Also, at least the Applejack fans, those laughing at everything Pinkie said, or those who thought everything Rainbow Dash did was awesome and wanted to constantly have her repeat her lessons/stories… I feel things did get pretty excessive and crazy.
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