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@Goku Black
I wonder if FB Radom is still making the P99. It is still listed on their page: https://fabrykabroni.pl/en/produkty/karabinki-sportowe/p99/

SCAR-H Bullpup (Airsoft)

@CaptainXtra
Few years ago some company was presenting arrow guns at a gun show. Not sure what company it was and whether they released the gun to the market. You could try searching for it.

EDIT: I found it: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/01/22/shot-2019-an-arrow-firing-rifle/

I just heard that Walther is discontinuing the P99.

Is there an Arrow Firing Gun that looks almost identical to a Rifle?

In other words, these things:

Coming out of something that looks like these:

Not a crossbow BTW:

So I guess what I’m asking here is…

PP-Bizon

Basically, it’s the AK47 meets the Tommy Gun.

@Ebalosus
Are you speaking ill of the German clock gun?

@CaptainXtra
Nope.

Tao:

Tavor X95:

Douglass Recoilless:

Would a Bullpup SMG basically just be an a somewhat oversized Auto Pistol?

Speaking of bullpups:

@NitroFury
Used by one of the One Year War’s best mobile suit designs, piloted by one of the UC timeline’s Best Girls.

Unbullpuped FAMAS

The more pertinent question is “why would any self-respecting criminal use a Beretta chambered in .22lr?”

Why is the sideways hold so popular with street criminal types?

I admit it looks kinda cool but dude, I’d be just as equally scared for my life if you held it upright so why be all flashy for no reason?

@Ebalosus
LMAO at that SCARling. Why would you use 556 with a 7.5 inch barrel when that cartridge was designed for 20 inches? .300 BLK exists, why not use it instead?

And SCAR’s bulk looks so silly in this form. Now I want to see Beretta ARX 160 pistol.

Yeah my mate Ivan was dragging the shit out of FN for their new “pistol” SCAR that, to quote him:

Point being, if you want more muzzle velocity, there is a hard-physics tradeoff with compactness, and is why PCCs make a lot more sense than meme-“pistols” that run on rifle rounds.

“B-But muh magnum, muh 357Sig, muh 10mm!” Sure, they’re theoretically more powerful, but then you’re trading a lot of usability for marginal performance improvements…which again, means that a PCC would do that better than a pistol. Like Shit_On_Wheels (of FMGC-01 fame) recently prototyped a Yeet-22 pistol that’s full-auto and despite it only running .22lr, you sure-as-shit wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of that.

@CaptainXtra
Magnums are not that different from regular handguns. Magnum rounds have more muzzle energy, but they also cause more recoil. For general use, non-magnum ammo is good enough. That’s because, as long as your bullets can penetrate, shot placement and speed matter more than some extra kinetic energy from magnums.

Rifles and shotguns still have more muzzle energy than magnum-firing handguns. For example, 5.56 fired from a rifle (20 inch barrel) still has more energy than .44 Magnum fired from a revolver (7.5 inch barrel). (Note that fudds whine how 5.56 is underpowered, meanwhile a .44 Magnum revolver used to be Dirty Harry’s “the most powerful handgun in the world”.) Additionally, rifle bullets typically penetrate better than pistol bullets due to their shape.

Rifle caliber pistols are gimmicks. (Unless you mean actual rifles that are only considered pistols by silly US gun laws. But for those, you would use both hands and preferably stocks, arm braces or other support. A shield would interfere.)

@Background Pony #5252
Not even a Magnum or Rifle Caliber Pistol?

@CaptainXtra
The main advantage of handguns is size and thus portability. It follows that their main use is having them with you just in case. If you are taking such a shield with you, it means you are expecting a gunfight, so you might as well take a rifle instead.

Wonder why more Pistol Users don’t pair their handguns with mini-shields like this:

Could switch cover easier in a gunfight with some added protection that wouldn’t slow you down by much.

Fellas who don’t carry around Larger Firearms like Shotguns or Rifles would definitely get some usage out of this.

@CaptainXtra
shotguns were never used outside of earth’s atmosphere, but one aircraft cannon was. on-board the salyut 3 space station.

@CaptainXtra
They took this drilling to space, but didn’t use it there. It was meant to be used on Earth to survive after landing in uninhabited areas.

Of course it would be none other than the Soviets who used a gun in space:

Double Shotgun Barrels and Single Rifled Barrel Combo in a Pistol Frame.

@CaptainXtra
Someone send that to Ian!

@CaptainXtra
It’s Stoehr Machine Pistol. It was used like this:

Weird that it’s not on Wikipedia nor Forgotten Weapons. More info here:
https://www.crossbreedholsters.com/blog/weird-handguns-my-7-favorite/
https://www.pewpewtactical.com/weird-bizarre-guns/

The fudging monstrosity:

Is this some sort of weird auto-pistol or pest control gun?

Found it in some random ass thread and didn’t have much detail on what it is…