Are there any significant difference between 'hypnosis' and 'mind control'?

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Yes there is and no they shouldn’t be.
 
Hypnosis is consensual; a person under hypnosis will never do something they wouldn’t want to do while not under hypnosis. They’re more receptive to suggestion and disinhibition, but will not to go against themselves.
 
Mind control is what it says on the tin; meat-puppet, that’s it, no self.
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I’d like to point out that the grand majority of hypnosis pictures are mind control , they just don’t fit the real life definition of hypnosis. They contain fantasy hypnosis where someone can be hypnotized without consent and can easily be changed against their will. So I suggest you revert to the original almost synonymous definition of the tag, or go through the trouble of actually creating a new tag for fantasy hypnosis.
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This thread leads me to a circular argument that I keep trying to resolve. If mind-control is nonconsensual, it is inherently grimdark. But the show contains mind-control, and show images are automatically safe. But mind-control is inherently grimdark. But the show images are safe….
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@Steel  
No…
 
Mind control within the context of sexual images is grimdark because it’s most often plain rape, which is always grimdark. Otherwise it’s situation dependant.
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So… mind control make you fuck is grimdark, mind control remove your free will is sunshine and rainbows? And if it’s not sunshine and rainbows, how is that ‘safe’?
 
I get what you’re saying, and it sorta makes sense, but it really makes me wish we had some way of accounting for actual elements of the show that are really kinda fucked up.
 
And, for that matter, for mind control that isn’t just rape, but making someone be their meat puppet and doing other things.
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@Steel  
Mate I really super cannot be arsed with this sort of anal bullshit. There’s a thing called common sense roughly 70% of the population possesses, and it’s a complete was of everyone’s time to write words and rules and exceptions for things that are fairly obvious to most people.
 
If someone’s being mindcontrolled to harm another, themselves, or allow either, that’s almost always going to be grimdark. If someone’s mindcontrolled for harmless comedic effect, victimless misunderstanding, or whatever, it’s gonna depend on the context.
 
Not every damn word needs a fixed rating and ruleset and 15-step flow diagram for how to deal with it, we all have brains of our own.
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Can’t be arsed to care. Gotcha. Sorry, I thought the point of tags was to block things from users. But yeah, if it’s not important to you, really no point in bringing it up. Any changes to how tags work do kinda require you to give a shit.
 
Oh, and common sense is not nearly as common as you suppose. If it was, we might not have mind-control in a kid’s show to begin with.
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A dash of understanding (which I value way more than common sense): there is a fetish for this kind of thing, and while the fetish is referred to as “hypnosis fetish,” most of it is what we’d tag as mind control. So there’s going to be a lot of mistaggings since the fetish was a bit of a misnomer to begin with.  
Because this is one of the few sites that makes a rating distinction for grimdark content, it’s just something that needs awareness and maintenance. Personal investment in other people’s fantasies notwithstanding.
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The popularity of definitions used on other sites that don’t care for the meaning of words shouldn’t be an issue here, but if in the end it means I have to spend an hour retagging a few thousand images as "mind control, rape", then I guess I will.
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@Steel
 
I imagine it would be trivial to search for “hypnosis” or “mind control” while excluding/blacklisting “grimdark.” It’s far from the most complex search I’ve had to do on this site.
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There are over 600 images with both mind control and hypnosis tagged on them. I swapped four of them to the one that looks like it fits, being mind control for those four, realized how many I would have had to change, and stopped.
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There are over 600 images with both mind control and hypnosis tagged on them. I swapped four of them to the one that looks like it fits, being mind control for those four, realized how many I would have had to change, and stopped.
 
And there you’ve hit upon the crux of the problem. It’s a shit-ton of work to fix the misuse of tags, hence people tend to not fix it.
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What to do about cases like hypnosis, rape in this case? There’s 186 images of this instance. Should they be changed to “mind control” too? 🙂
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@Ponylooker
 
Well I wouldn’t say “clearly” mind control, much less rape. Problem with this sort of thing is that sometimes you need further context from the artist on what exactly’s going on…
Background Pony #2157
Why are people even attempting to tag hypnosis under its real life definition when 99% of the images under the hypnosis tag do not fit that definition? It’s fetish and fantasy, not consensual therapy. I say just revert this pointless change.
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Reads description for both tags. Says not to tag them together  
They’re both related some form or another. I’ll put them together, anyways.
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