Fanon Style Hippogriffs and Classical-G4 Style Hippogriffs

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Here Here! I guess since we’re deciding subtags are useless.
 
I know in another thread some mods were complaining about how tagging all that mess was super slow going anyways. We can just cut out that work, because who needs that info? Obviously you can just look and tell if a pony is whichever species.
 
And before anyone shouts straw man, think about it. A horn, vs wings, vs nothing is about the same level of a difference as bird head vs pony head.
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Settle down everyone.  
Repeating the same sentences and running in circles is just that, running in circles. And unless this is NASCAR, that isn’t going to get you anywhere.
 
We have the umbrella tag, and the sub-tags. And if someone wishes to make an actual post describing their reasoning for changing what has already been settled on, you may do so.
 
But if all you wish to post is about the other posts or about the % of past decisions or something not actually constructive, then just don’t post. You do not have to reply.
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You’re right it’s not a strawman, it’s false equivalence. You can’t compare tags for subspecies hippogriffs to canon species such as pegasi to unicorn because both pegasi and unicorns are distinguishable and named in-canon, while hippogriffs and canon hippogriffs are not.  
The best comparison you can do that isn’t blatantly trying to stir up shit like yours would be a comparison to unicorn and classical unicorn. And if you’ll read back I think we were all in agreement at the time to have a separate tag for canon hippogriffs to distinguish the two like classical and normal unicorns are now.  
But then nothing came of that. You started to try and take it a step further, enforce dumb names, once again we were at a discourse with nothing actually being done. So we came to this. Since we couldn’t all agree on the show hippogriffs being tagged as such, we’re rolling back to the way things were before you went and started this whole thing. It’s probably not the best option but it’s the least dramatic.
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I…didnt touch it other than keeping the classical hippogriff tag policed this time, which is where I want it to be, since this discussion we all know is largely fruitless. That was someone else’s meddling.
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@Zeb  
The issue is, Joey said he was going to roll the clock back and merge all the subtags back into the umbrella. Is that still happening? Is there discussion among the mods about it?
 
@Ralek  
Something did come of it; the classical hippogriff tag was crated and applied etc. The person taking things a step further, as you put it, was someone who wasn’t even aware that this thread existed.
 
There was a pretty reasonable discussion as to whether fandom style hippogriffs should have their own subtag, a discussion that seemed to be coming to a close with a decent tag name when someone else suggested a third subtag for fandom hippogriffs with paws instead of claws, someone else made a long and pretty abusive post, and then Joey stepped in to roll things back.
 
Option with the least drama would be to leave the classical tag in place and forget about the fandom subtag. There’s no good reason that I can think of to remove it, when it was becoming established and wasn’t causing drama.
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The issue is that no one can agree what “additional info” the tags provide. If it’s only meaningful to a few people, it’s probably not good info.
 
@GyroTech  
If there was an agreement, we wouldn’t be debating it two months later….
 
@GyroTech  
I don’t consider the results of off site polls in making site decisions. Too easy to spoof or skew results.
 
@Mike  
Me too. But sadly this has gone on way too long.
 
@nirvash  
The “classical unicorn” tag has been in use for years and has a strong, agreed upon definition. We’ve gotten by with just a “hippogriff” tag for years without issue.
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Bwuh? What happened to fanon hippogriff? I thought everyone agreed it was a fine middle ground a couple days ago?
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@Joey  
The reason the debate was stirred was because of the actions of a person who didn’t realise the topic had already been discussed and decided upon. The validity of the classical hippogriff tag wasn’t in question, just whether or not there was a need for a separate tag for fandom ones.
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If there was an agreement, we wouldn’t be debating it two months later….
 
That was me. Concerning a Different tag in the discussion.
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Ok, I’m tired of this being a major issue. Ponygriff and fandom hippogriff have been merged into hippogriff.
 
As far as I can tell, no one is complaining about classical hippogriff, so that tag can stay if it’s not being an issue.
 
This discussion has gone on way too long. We’re done with it. This is not an invitation to pm me or bug me on discord if you disagree.
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Also, I do want to add that I understand that this may not be a popular solution with everyone, but after two months and this regularly flaring back up, it has become pretty clear that there is no possible solution that would make everyone happy.
 
As I’ve said, the “classical hippogriff” tag has been left in place as there’s not been any complaints about it as far as I can tell. However it seems that there was never much strong overall desire for a tag distinguishing fandom style hippogriffs from canon style ones.
 
I’ll take full responsibility for this decision. But over the past few days, it’s become increasingly clear that a universally agreeable solution does not exist, so a decision had to be made. If you disagree with it, I apologize, but this is one of those cases where not everyone is gonna be happy, so I had to put a stop to it before it got even worse.
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