Japanese buruma and sports panties

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Currently the Japanese schoolgirl gym shorts is tagged as “bloomers. As seen on these images:  

 
But “bloomers” is also used for the type of underwear. As seen on these images:  

 
As these are very different types of clothing, I suggest splitting these into two different tags. The underwear can keep the tag “bloomers”, and the Japanese schoolgirl gym shorts can merge into a tag I’ll mention below.
 
sports shorts are shorts that are often tight too the body. But some of these sports shorts have no legs, and even shaped like panties (or bikini bottom), so a new term has been introduced: “sports panties. – Because the Japanese schoolgirl gym shorts are like tight pants with no legs, those are just like what “sports panties” describes. So the suggestion is to move all Japanese schoolgirl gym shorts over to “sports panties”, and even making the Japanese word “buruma” (often associated with these pants) as an alias for “sports panties”.
 
Furthermore, there’s also the tag “gym shorts that’s barely in use. The majority is “sports shorts” and could work as an alias for that. (Except >>1829250 being “sports panties” and >>1855654+>>321586 being regular “shorts”).
 
 
Summary  
• “buruma” as alias for “sports panties  
• Japanese schoolgirl gym shorts in “bloomers should move over to “sports panties”  
• “gym shorts as alias for “sports shorts
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Other than the context of what’s going on in the picture, why shouldn’t the “buruma” just be tagged as bikini bottom as that’s exactly what they look like?
 
I’d tag the smolder and rarity pics as “t-shirt” and “bikini bottom” and the dash pic as “sports bra” and “bikini bottom.”
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But it looks exactly like one. And we encourage people to tag what we see and not require additional exposition or interpretation that’s not in the picture.
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@cheezedoodle  
But in that case, you should merge swimsuits and underwear.
 
If it’s a swimsuit, underwear or sports/gym outfit, can be determined by context. And I don’t agree that it looks like a swimsuit, so now it’s harder for me to find these images.
 
You don’t tag everything based on what it looks like. For example the shipping tags are based on what the artist intended it to be. Characters are tagged based on what character it actually is and not which it looks like. – So why can’t the same be true for clothing?
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tag: sports bra  
short description: Chest support for physical exercise that exposes the belly  
implies: clothes, sports outfit  
aliases: sports top  
example:  
 
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tag: sports shorts  
short description: Shorts that are used in physical exercise  
implies: clothes, sports outfit  
aliases: athletic shorts, gym shorts, exercise shorts  
example:  
>>650309s (deleted)  
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tag: sports dress  
short description: Often short dress that is used in physical exercise  
implies: clothes, dress, sports outfit  
aliases: tennis dress  
example:  
 
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tag: sports panties  
short description: Leg-less sports shorts  
implies: clothes, sports outfit  
aliases: buruma  
detailed description: Bottoms for a sports outfit that is shaped like panties. This would include female Olympic runner pants, and the traditional Japanese schoolgirl gym pants.  
example:  
 
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tag: sports outfit  
short description: Clothing made for physical exercise  
implies: clothes  
aliases: gym uniform, gym clothes, gym outfit, workout outfit  
example:  
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I was just about to post a suggestion to alias gym shorts into sports shorts and found this post doing due-diligence searching. I agree with these except that I’m not sure whether each component should imply sports outfit - it depends whether that tag is for complete outfits, or a category tag for sports-focused items of clothing (if it were re-titled something like sports clothes then I’d think it’s clear).
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‘Sports outfit’ may be better as ‘sports wear’, and ‘sports panties’ as ‘sports briefs’, the former of which is more associated with underwear.
Related thread here.
EDIT: I think I’d also like to bring up a couple of semi-related issues. At what point are we drawing distinctions without a difference? Also, the more tags of slight variance there are, the more likely images will be tagged incorrectly. I realize this is probably a complicated problem with no obvious solution. Should tags be more precise or general? Perhaps both, as searching with syntax can help with sorting through a large amount of images.
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EDIT: I think I’d also like to bring up a couple of semi-related issues. At what point are we drawing distinctions without a difference? [….] I realize this is probably a complicated problem with no obvious solution. Should tags be more precise or general? Perhaps both, as searching with syntax can help with sorting through a large amount of images.
I don’t think there’s any general answer to that. It depends on each topic. If you have some specific subjects in mind, you should probably start new threads about each one to discuss them.
Also, the more tags of slight variance there are, the more likely images will be tagged incorrectly.
That can be made less of a problem via implications, where the more specific tags imply the more general categorical tags - up to a point, or else it might become too tag-spammy or almost redundant.
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panties+bra, bikini and sports panties+bra are visually similar, but functionally different. You simply have to tag by context.
  • Is the person in the bed, brushing teeth, undressing, or do you see the clothing under a skirt? Likely underwear.
  • Is the person at the beach, with others who are wearing one-piece swimsuits, having a beach ball, towel, sun screen, or the like? Likely swimwear.
  • Is the person at the gym, doing exercises, holding weights, at some workout machine, wearing sweatbands or shoes? Likely sportswear.
If there’s little context to go by, there’s more you can look at to determine: if the outfit has a bow, or a heart/striped pattern, it’s more likely underwear. If the outfit has a triangle-bra, underboob, or shiny in style, it’s likely swimwear. Sports panties is the less common variant, so this one usually requires context.
Plus check the tags on the source, it might say underwear, bikini, sportswear, and that can also help.
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