Unnecessary "futa oc:name" tags?

Gadget_Steelmare
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Cyborg Lover
So lately someone has been going around adding “futa oc:(character name)” tags to tons of images. Personally I think they’re unnecessary. It’s just a combination of preexisting tags, and only adds clutter to the tagging section. A lot of them are also just wrong. They’ve been added to pictures where the character in question isn’t a dedicated dickmare, or in the case of some of my pictures, is actually a bustyboy. I know we have dedicated futa tags for canon characters, but that’s because there’s exponentially more pictures of them than there are of OCs, so having the tags for them makes sense. For OCs you can just use a combination of tags to achieve the same effect.
 
So, my question is: Are the tags needed? Or is it more appropriate to use a combination of futa/OC name/etc. tags?
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Having no official say in the matter, I’d go with them being unnecessary. The existence of “futa character x” tags is in and of itself a bit of a compromise, as they’re aliases of the futa pun tags that were most commonly used for main characters. That the tags started spreading to background and minor characters is part of what lead to them being aliased into a standardized format, since they weren’t seen as being any more useful than the two tags separately.
 
In fact, the whole point of tags is to identify common elements that, combined, can be used to find or filter specific things. Single-use tags exist and serve that purpose well if there truly aren’t that many instances of something, and joke tags are fine by me. The difference here is that I think these futa oc tags started cropping up because of users simply following a pattern without understanding the justification behind it. Unless there’s some famous OC that’s known for being drawn as a futa nearly as often as they aren’t, I see no reason why OCs should have a tag for this specific purpose when even tagging canon background ponies this way has been seen as going too far.
 
tl;dr: Futa oc tags are so niche as to be counterproductive, just use two tags.
Zeb
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@WingbeatPony  
I don’t quite believe they’re necessary myself. And as far as I’m aware, only Fluffle Puff had her own futa tag before this. While all of the other Futa oc: tags have been created by 1 person.  
I haven’t felt a pressing need to remove the tags. So I’d wait for more input from other staff before doing anything about it, since the tags don’t cause any harm by themselves. Aside from the miss-tagging instances such as with said Busty Boy OCs.
Zeb
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Tag-Bot
Alright~  
So I searched through. And these are the tags that either already existed, being added by other people, or are of characters that aren’t normally futa, and are relatively popular [100+ images of the OC]  
[already existed]  
futa oc:button’s mother  
futa oc:milky way  
[popular OCs that aren’t normally futa]  
futa:oc mango  
futa oc:georgia lockheart  
futa oc:hellen lockheart  
futa oc:bwae  
futa oc:jade aurora
 
The rest are either characters that are normally futa. Or have, like, 20 or so images. Mostly futa.
 
So I’d say keep these, and then toss the rest.
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@Zeb  
I have only ever heard of those first two OCs. I think the rest can be ditched too and just keep the first two. (I thought you mentioned Fluffle Puff before?)
Gadget_Steelmare
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Cyborg Lover
@LightningBolt
Well, there it is.
 
full
 
But yeah, it’s all been done by one person, and they look like they’ve been working 8+ days straight judging by their tagging history. I just didn’t want to name names and call attention to them, because that’s not cool.
Gadget_Steelmare
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Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
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Twinkling Balloon - Took part in the 2021 community collab.
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2019) - Celebrated Derpibooru's seventh year anniversary with friends.
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2018) - Celebrated Derpibooru's six year anniversary with friends.

Cyborg Lover
As a side note, did someone tell that person to stop adding the tags? I don’t know if they got the memo yet or not. (I know it’s none of my business, I’m just curious.)
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@LightningBolt  
Not seeing the point of separate “futa oc” tag. For overwhelming majority of these, you can search/filter just the actual “oc:X” tag, and for the rest, “oc[:X],[NOT]futa”. And it adds more work to tag all images that contain a futa OC.
Zeb
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@Barhandar  
Actually you would tag the same number of tags. Just “futa oc” instead of “futa” and bam. It’s tagged futa, futa oc, and oc for ya~
 
Also it’s the same as alicorn oc, humanized oc, etc~
Gadget_Steelmare
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Cyborg Lover
So since the one user keeps adding to the tags, I’ve been going through in my spare time and cleaning them out, since it’s been agreed on that they’re bad tags and don’t belong. As for Zeb’s suggestion of keeping some and tossing the others, I say no. It’s either all or nothing. You can’t allow it for some OCs and not for others. Just because they’re a popular OC, it doesn’t make them a canon character. They shouldn’t get special treatment over other OCs because of that.
Zeb
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Notoriously Divine Tagger - Consistently uploads images above and beyond the minimum tag requirements. And/or additionally, bringing over the original description from the source if the image has one. Does NOT apply to the uploader adding several to a dozen tags after originally uploading with minimum to bare tagging.
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Equality - In our state, we do not stand out.
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Cool Crow - "Caw!" An awesome tagger
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@Gadget_Steelmare  
My suggestion was agreeing with LightningBolt and aliasing them all into “Futa oc” much like “alicorn oc” and “changeling oc”.
 
The only individual ones I mentioned was when I was pointing out a couple that existed before the one person began adding more. But nothing beyond pointing them out as different~
 
Also: Do please stop removing them, since we’re planning on aliasing them. It would be nice for the new tag to remain on the images.
Gadget_Steelmare
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Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
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Non-Fungible Trixie -
Twinkling Balloon - Took part in the 2021 community collab.
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2019) - Celebrated Derpibooru's seventh year anniversary with friends.
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2018) - Celebrated Derpibooru's six year anniversary with friends.

Cyborg Lover
@Zeb  
Unfortunately the problem with that idea is that the “futa oc” tag is used to refer to OCs that are exclusively dickgirls. The person adding the “futa oc:name” tags has been adding them to characters that only sometimes have a dick, so aliasing them would cause a lot of incorrect tagging.
Zeb
Praise the Sun! - Derpi Supporter
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2019) - Celebrated Derpibooru's seventh year anniversary with friends.
Economist -
Notoriously Divine Tagger - Consistently uploads images above and beyond the minimum tag requirements. And/or additionally, bringing over the original description from the source if the image has one. Does NOT apply to the uploader adding several to a dozen tags after originally uploading with minimum to bare tagging.
Perfect Pony Plot Provider - Uploader of 10+ images with 350 upvotes or more (Questionable/Explicit)
Equality - In our state, we do not stand out.
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2018) - Celebrated Derpibooru's six year anniversary with friends.
Cool Crow - "Caw!" An awesome tagger
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday

Tag-Bot
@Gadget_Steelmare  
Huh? That’s not how that works. If the character in the image is currently a futa, they get tagged with the futa tags.
 
Characters that aren’t always alicorns are still tagged with alicorn oc.
 
Additional additional: Yeah, we have mass tagging tools, so you really could have saved yourself a ton of trouble working on all those tags.
 
And since you still seem to be doing it: Please stop removing the tags and let us handle them. Thank you.
Gadget_Steelmare
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Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
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Non-Fungible Trixie -
Twinkling Balloon - Took part in the 2021 community collab.
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2019) - Celebrated Derpibooru's seventh year anniversary with friends.
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2018) - Celebrated Derpibooru's six year anniversary with friends.

Cyborg Lover
@Zeb  
That’s what I’ve been told over and over in the past. Must have changed since then. EDIT: To clarify, I meant ONLY the “futa oc” tag, not the “futa” tag. I know that if the picture features a dickgirl it gets the “futa” tag.
 
Anyways, I’ll stop removing the tags if it’s causing you problems. You might want to tell the other guy to stop adding to them too, since they’re currently under debate. I was just removing them because it seemed like the entire topic had been forgotten until just a little while ago. Bad tagging makes me want to stab my eyes out.
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