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You know the show staff have said it’s not canon and the comic writers say it is guess who I’m more inclined to believe.
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HOW DOES THAT EVEN-
 
Waaaay back then I uploaded an image of Vinyl’s brother on this site and this damn user went all ‘Oh it’s not canon cuz it’s the comics”. I calmly said that a writer said the comics were canon and he said ’oh I still dun see it as canon cause no confirmation!”
 
Me:….
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@Pepsi_Al  
Yeah..I hate the fanDUMB of MLP…
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Some fans can be very stupid too.
 
For example: I’ve even just recently ran into one fan who SOMEHOW seems to think that the entity that took over Rarity during the Nightmares arc, and whatever turned Luna into Nightmare Moon, are separate things. And by that, I mean that he thinks that Shadowfright, a.k.a. Larry, took Rarity over during the Nightmares arc. And that’s despite NMM2, a.k.a. NMR, explicitly talking to Shadowfright, despite the Mare in the Moon appearing on moon during that arc, and despite NMM2 having mentioned that she fought the Mane 6 before.
 
After reading him say that with certainty, I’m all like “What is this? I don’t even…”
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Indeed they can…
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Fandoms can be problematic…
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@CrassMetalHead  
I see, the stupid “headcanon” excuse…that’s probably what caused the stupid Twilight Alicorn excuse, because their little headcanons didn’t get confirmed.
 
I heard the comics are more of a B-canon, but both are separate canon. IMO from what I’ve read of them, I’d only consider Return of Chrysalis canon, and maybe Reflections if it were possible (I may be a bit biased as they’re my two favorites) but that would probably be impossible.
 
Certain ones like Siege I definitely cannot see as canon.
 
And yeah, I tend to get frustrated with the fandom at times… :(
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Reflections is actually awesome, dunno why anyone would hate it
 
It involved romance and backstory for Celestia, both of which were guaranteed to instantly cause fury among people whose headcanons were wrecked by it– and among those who just don’t want to see either canonized– so it already had a lot of people who disliked it before it even came out. Add them to the people who didn’t like it because they just plain didn’t like it, and that made for louder complaints than might normally be expected in the pre-Anderson days.
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I think the problem some people have with the comics are that some don’t know if they’re canon. I think one writer said they are, but you know fandoms.
 
Plus some people will get uptight regarding continuity in the comics and the show (such as with the Nightmare Rarity arc).
 
And the other known reason is “IT’S A TREND TO HATE SHAT :D”
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I wouldn’t say that’s the entire case. IDW used to be good (and Reflections is actually awesome, dunno why anyone would hate it).
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@CrassMetalHead  
it’s not as bad as some subreddits
 
Of course not– we have a Rule #5 around here.
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I keep forgetting the cirlejerking that goes on here.
 
Then again it’s not as bad as some subreddits.
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With fans like this,who needs haters
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@Pepsi_Al  
“A deal with the devil” is a good way to put it; Luna’s expression when she turned was clearly one of someone who had made bad choices and rash decisions without thinking through the implications of them, and then all-a sudden realized that she done effed up. What I got from it is that she had been driven– or had driven herself– to the point where she gave in deliberately to external manipulation, and then got hit with one hell of a case of buyer’s remorse.
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  1. As for the case with the Nightmare Forces - the problem is that it obsolves Luna of all guilt and honestly makes her come across as being stupid.
Everytime I see this argument, I’ll never understand how that’s the case. I honestly don’t see how the Nightmare Forces “absolve” Luna of her guilt, or how they make her come across as “being stupid.” A deal with the devil isn’t something to be taken lightly, and at the time she got taken over, she likely felt like she would do anything to gain as much recognition as her sister. If you ask me, the fact that she let Nightmare take her over doesn’t absolve her of anything.
 
That’s why I prefer for the idea that the Nightmare Forces power was gradual and their “control” was more of an emotional one. Like whispering in her ears.
hat kind of thing where they manipulate and chip away at her but don’t take control. This leads her to go a bit insane and turn evil, and the Elements of Harmony take away the “voices” reducing her to see what she’s done without the voices assuring her she’s right and weakening her.
The “whispering in her ears bit” is pretty much canon, though. But LuminoZero’s right. Luna obviously wasn’t in (at least complete) control when she was NMM. Her actions are pretty much a blatant indicator of that. Especially with how trying to usher in Eternal Night would kill everything in Equestria, if not on the planet itself.
 
And heck! Even The Season 4 premiere supports the notion that she wasn’t in control when she was NMM. That is, if her expression when her transformation is happening is anything to go by.
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You know what we call comments like yours? A deflection, nobody is talking about the show here but I guess if you need to bring it up then that means the comics can’t hold their own by themselves and needs the show to carry it.
 
Pointing out a double standard is certainly relevant to the conversation. It’s unreasonable to hold the comic to a higher standard than the show. There’s bad episodes and there’s bad comics.
 
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Congratulations on achieving the following in one brief reply:
 
  1. Claiming your shit don’t stink as bad as someone else’s  
  2. Bringing up my site assistant tag as if it has some relevance  
  3. Making me regret the fact that I’m on your side in the comic wars  
  4. Ignoring my point entirely. Posting comic-hater counterdrama whining doesn’t count. You’re only going to get what you want by overpowering the haters with actual commentary. Going elsewhere or counter-shitposting only makes the problem worse. This thread’s a good start! Your useful-commentary-to-whining ratio has almost risen above 1.0 here.
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@dynamicv  
Since when? I don’t recall it ever being stated to be a creation of her own. It’s been a while so maybe you could point me to where it says that?
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Nightmare Moon created the Nightmare Forces herself. She was not possessed by them while she was Luna.
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Okay…  
  1. One of the major issues with the comics is (especially with Cook) is the “Go for the joke” mentality but unfortunately has most of their comedy be Pinkie style. I rarely feel like they take anything seriously - even the straightmen, AJ and Twilight.
     
  2. They treat the comedy like the show which doesn’t really work because you take in a comment much slower than you would the show - looney tunes type comedy just doesn’t work as well because you linger on a frame much longer, which is why comics generally rely on jokes than visual humor but the MLP comics try too much with visual humor.
     
  3. Way too much pop culture references - while the show has pop culture in it, the comics shove them in everywhere and a dramatic scene is ruined when you get a giggle out of seeing Mabel Pony. Completely ruins the dramatic tension.
     
  4. Characterization is poor - Twilight is arrogant about her magic (she’s usually prideful about how high a regard ponies regard her, not her skills) and she smack talks (Twilight does not smack talk, that’s Rainbow and AJ to a lesser extent - Twilight does grandoise speeches). Rarity falls for every handsom stallion or quadraped she comes across which just gets repetitive and annoying. Fluttershy comes off more naive than kind. Rainbow Dash is Pinkie Pie light with comments and actions more like her than herself. AJ is okay unless she’s involved in a joke and she doesn’t seem to have any business sense. Pinkie’s actually okay overall - it’s just the visual medium problem with her makes her jokes more flat.
     
  5. As for the case with the Nightmare Forces - the problem is that it obsolves Luna of all guilt and honestly makes her come across as being stupid. She didn’t choose to do anything. That’s why I prefer for the idea that the Nihtmare Forces power was gradual and their “control” was more of an emotional one. Like whispering in her ears “See, see how even in their dreams they dream of the day? Even while asleep they do not want your night. Are you really okay with this, Your Majesty.” “No…” “But, you will allow it.” “Y-Yes…” “Is that what you truly want.” “No.” “They don’t love you, do they?” “M-Maybe.” “Do they?” “N-No.” “DO THEY?!” “NO! THEY HATE THEIR PRINCESS OF THE NIGHT!” “The punish them.” “W…What?” “All you have to do is give them one. little. nightmare. Make them feel bad for ignoring you.” “Give them a nightmare…if they hate the night than give them something to fear it instead. Make them stay awake.” “Yes. YES! If they choose to avoid my night…to hate my night than I will take that choice away! Just one little nightmare…but of what.” “Might I suggest a wicked mare of darkness?” Shows the transformation of Nightmare Moon
     
    That kind of thing where they manipulate and chip away at her but don’t take control. This leads her to go a bit insane and turn evil, and the Elements of Harmony take away the “voices” reducing her to see what she’s done without the voices assuring her she’s right and weakening her.
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Strawmanning is a word that i see regularlyused by people cornered by their own hypocrisy
Go look at the IDW tag or the circlejerk you call a forum for more “le strawman”
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I reiterate and persist Meanwhile,your side posting rants image about SatanHitler Ted Anderson/IDW are allllllright and not at all attempt to start shit,no siree and i’ll add this time that your hypocrisy is nauseating
 
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@soundtea  
Strawmanning is a word that i see regularlyused by people cornered by their own hypocrisy  
Go look at the IDW tag or the circlejerk you call a forum for more “le strawman”  
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I reiterate and persist Meanwhile,your side posting rants image about SatanHitler Ted Anderson/IDW are allllllright and not at all attempt to start shit,no siree and i’ll add this time that your hypocrisy is nauseating
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Anyone who’s ever played a tabletop fantasy RPG knows how short a fight can be when hardcore magic user players cast their $#!+ clever-like; it’s probably just a matter of needing to stretch a scene for the narrative, the same way actual factual fistfights and gunfights tend to be over hella quicker than they are in the movies.