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@Vinyl Fluff  
Me again, the one who sparked the discussion. Actually i figured you were talking about the Ursa Minor, but as someone else said, she didn’t “fight” him.  
However other people had a lengthy discussion with you about this already, and while i might have worded it a bit different, i don’t think there is much i could add to this discussion.
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@Chronicle23  
She’s never been shown using it, and it’s likely she can’t. But Twilight has no problem teleporting other people/things.
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I just assumed they teleported. Which makes me think, can Rarity perform the teleport spell?
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I’d suggest looking up what “plot determines limitations” means as a trope. It’s similar to how Celestia keeps being beaten by things that she shouldn’t. This is a being that literally raises the sun. Are you questioning her power? I’d assume not. But yet, every time she goes up against something, either she’s unable to stop it, or she’s beaten, in the case of Chrysalis. This is known as “The Worf Effect.”
 
Twilight is powerful. We’ve seen that. But whenever the plot dictates that she’s unable to beat something, or something comes up she can’t handle, it’s because the plot dictates it.
 
This is why we can’t have episodes where she does the logical thing half the time, and use magic to solve it. Because then it would be boring.
 
Case in point: She is considered one of the most-gifted unicorns in Equestria. I’d say that she would be more powerful, magic-wise, than Cadance, especially given that her talent is magic, whereas Cadance’s is not.
 
Yet, Cadance could power a shield spell for the Cystal Empire alone for days.
 
Shining Armor shielded the entirety of Canterlot for days.
 
Twilight should, in theory, be able to easily best that. We’ve seen her use shields before, multiple times. So we’ve got evidence of things ponies with lesser magical abilities could do. So she should be able to top that, easily.
 
You know why you don’t see more things handled like that? Because then there would be far less threats as far as the plots go.
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>implying the writers couldn’t come up with some jokey explanation if they wanted to
 
@Black_Fox  
Yeah, it’s about time the show portrayed acting like a selfish jerk in a positive light, don’t you think?
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The same way they backed off from Garble once revealed, instead of, uh, kicking his scaly posterior ten ways to yesterday, probably? Which they could do individually, much less together.
You can’t possibly think Rarity would be able to do anything alone. That’s some massive underestimating you’re doing for a creature that, regardless of size, has shown tremendous innate stats. Swimming in lava no problem, eating diamonds like candy and melting metal in 2 seconds. Why do people insist on overhyping ponies so much? Not everyone is like Twilight. And those who aren’t, are basically fodder even against teen dragon.
 
@Vinyl Fluff  
Yeah, I’m kind of tired of the “oh no, a dragon” reaction. Rarity might not be able to, but Twilight alone could kick his ass with no problem. She could’ve done it as a unicorn. She definitely can as an alicorn.
Based on what exactly? On how she ran away from the Timberwolves together with everyone even though they were all in danger? On how she was powerless against the Cragodile and her friends had to help her? On how her beams were causing only mild annoyance to a normal-sized bear with bug wings? Or on the fact that her own only battle showing against a an actually threatening creature was performed when she had the combined power of all princesses together which gives her abilities FAR above any one else’s individually?
 
This is what I’m talking about. People only act as if behaviour like this was PiS, only because it contradicts the image they have in their minds. Her attitude this episode is perfectly consistent with how she normally reacts. Maybe its time to start taking the hint?
 
@Vinyl Fluff  
I know they’re setting them up so they’re a “big scary race” and a potential danger. But still, we’re talking about a character who has handled far bigger things, and far more dangerous threats.
Always by using a creative way to exploit a critical weakness (that won’t always be there), or with the help of all her friends, or with a magical artifact, or when temporarily empowered well beyond her limits. So what’s exactly the point?
 
-NMM was thanks to the Elements.  
-The Ursa Minor was because she knew it was a baby, so it would be susceptible to a mere lullaby.  
-The Hydra she ran away from.  
-The Changelings are laughably weak individually (even Fluttershy’s cowering motion knocked them over).  
-Sombra was thanks to the Crystal Heart.  
-The Timberwolves she immediately ran away from.  
-The Cragadile she was powerless against. If her friends hadn’t arrived…  
-The Tatzlwurm was the best showing she had, and she had Cadance’s help and they still only pushed it back.  
-The Bugbear was barely annoyed by her beams.  
-Starlight is a pony just like her, so her durability doesn’t prove anything in regards to stronger creatures.
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@Black_Fox  
That’s one of a few reasons I like dragons better or any race other than ponies. They act like they’re better than everyone as evident in Twilight’s behavior in the episode.
 
Even Rarity made a racist remark she quickly retracted so it’s no wonder all the other races isolate themselves
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It’s because the show is obviously child-friendly pony propaganda; haven’t you seen how both griffons and dragons have benefited from behaving more like ponies? The entire show is one big sham run by Equestria in order to paint ponies in the best possible light and all other races as dumb, monsters, or both.
 
I bet The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone caused a bit of a political scandal with the griffons.
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Probably because they were too busy getting smashed or burned
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I think they teleported. As long as Twilight sees them, it should be possible.
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Like how did Twilight manage a teleport like that without the other dragons noticing a giant flash of light?
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wut the wut just happened to this thread ?
 
last i came here it was like this…  
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and now it’s like this…  
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i think everyone here need this …  
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@Prof.NightJack  
You were banned because you submitted over a half dozen reports for the same image, simply because the mods weren’t responding fast enough for your liking. There’s a difference between submitting a single report that isn’t accurate, and spamming reports.
 
At any rate, this is way too off topic, so why don’t you stop arguing it, or take it to the site and policy forum if you’d like a better explanation as to why spamming reports is not the same thing as submitting one incorrect one. Either way, stop posting here.
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@Prof.NightJack  
Just let the mods figure it out.
 
I don’t think you should feel obligated to maintain the order since you’re just a member
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@Joey  
Also I’m kind of scarred to report anything that isn’t a clear violation of the rules because I got a ban once for one report and the a mod then commented how I did somthing wrong like I was stupid….
 
So ya, mixed messages on things.
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Magic. Duh.
 
Element of Magic, remember?
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@Joey  
Funny, I have done just that and told to take it else where when it got too long…..
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@Prof.NightJack  
They were having a debate. I didn’t see any insults, name calling, off topic spam, or other duckery. If people want to have a debate about an image in a civil way that is on topic, I don’t think many people would have a problem with that.
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@Joey  
>So why don’t you stop pretending to be a mod  
I want’t…..
 
>and just report stuff you think may be breaking the rules, instead of assuming that it is and start telling people to cut it out?  
Umm I was saying that to get them to understand it was going a little out of hand before I went and reported it.
 
Also I have been told to stop by mods when I got into something along the same lines is it now okay to get get passionate about one’s stance and having a debate not matter how long it goes? Or is it still a problem?
 
Look, I respect the mods but damn it, get some common ground on things because i have a hard time telling what I should do when I keep being told by one mod that one thing or way is how it sould be, AND THEN ANOTHER TELLS ME THE OPPOSITE!!!
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@Prof.NightJack  
Alright, after reading through that overly long comment chain, I’m not seeing anything more than two people who are very passionate about their stances and having a debate over the topic of the image. Hardly anything wrong on it’s own.
 
So why don’t you stop pretending to be a mod and just report stuff you think may be breaking the rules, instead of assuming that it is and start telling people to cut it out?
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@CronoM  
I’m replying to 90% of your posts, and segmenting them for readability.
 
I didn’t “dodge” anything. I didn’t address something that wasn’t relevant to my point. Which was she has shown growth, and I added some examples of her abilities that have shown her growth. You were the one who acted like Twilight is somehow weaker now than at the start of the show. You’ve downplayed everything she can do in some sort of fanboying for the dragons.
 
You also came across as very hostile right from the start. Like I said, it feels like I somehow offended your personal headcanon here, and you took offense at it.
 
I, in my original statement, just said I was tired of seeing dragons treated like an invincible foe, no matter what. I also said I understood why they’re doing so. So you’ve basically done nothing but take my opinion and tried attacking me over it, justifying it with your own headcanon and feelings.
 
As this conversation will go nowhere, I agree not replying anymore is the best solution.