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@Background Pony #520A  
I’m talking about if Tempest had walked about before he got to use that orb
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@Cryosite
 
I think I hit a bug, because it won’t let me edit my comments anymore. I’m #520A, but it might not show up like that.
 
Edit: Huh, it recognizes I’m the same person, but I can’t edit my earlier posts, only this one. Strange.
 
Anyway, I was going to add that when we see the lands that the Storm King took over, he barely sounds like anything besides an annoyance. He’s just some guy who made some pirates sell bobble heads and mildly inconvenienced the Hippogriffs, but no, it doesn’t imply that he actually did anything. There’s no fear of him that we see at all. Or am I just supposed to use my imagination for them having fear too? I’ll imagine a whole different movie while I’m at it.
 
You also wrote off Tempest as being nothing but “edgy”, so I really doubt you paid much attention. She was the most well developed character in the film.
 
@Background Pony #DAF6  
Again, it didn’t do anything to anybody.
 
To answer your early question, if Tempest wasn’t there, he never would’ve gotten the Princesses’ magic in the first place, so it’s a moot point.
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@Flufux  
He still wasn’t interesting or threatening in the least bit and didn’t do anything at all.
 
@Cryosite  
Yeah, that’s not even remotely true. What I wanted was to see him do something because he supposedly became the most powerful person in the universe with his stupid stick and all he did with it was move the sun and moon. The scene called for him to do something and an absence of anything happening shows he’s a waste of time.
 
We never saw what any of the villians did before their debut episodes, but all of them had a presence that actually made them intimidating. Storm King was shown to be selling bobble-heads of himself and not doing anything. You have to literally ignore the movie to think he’s a good villian.
 
Michael Bay movie villians have the same problem, because the brain-dead explosions do nothing to have any impact on the characters whatsoever and it’s nothing besides a visual effect. I want a villian that effects the story and comes off as intimidating. Storm King failed at that miserably.
 
Your imagination gave you something that wasn’t only lacking from the movie, but was actually in contradiction to what was seen. If you want a good villian who we see do very little, look at Palptine from Empire and Jedi. Pretty much the only thing we see is him blast Luke, but the implications actually worked and created one of the best villians of all time. One that was actually less cool when we see more of what he did in the Prequels, because it just showed something unneeded.
 
If Jedi were written by the MLP Movie writers, the force lightning scene would be removed and instead, we would’ve seen him blow up animal balloons with his farts, while Darth Vader talks about how great he is, even though everything we see is in direct contrast to that.
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@Flufux  
The problem here is that you have an imagination and expect to use your brain. What OP wants in a Michael Bay movie. No thinking. Just explosions. If a villain is to be “good” then he has to be on screen wrecking stuff, or it’s lame.
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Have you also considered the fact that Tempest wouldn’t even be a threat in the first place if it wasn’t for him? It was his army that conquered half the world, it was his airships Tempest used to chase the mane six across Equestria, he was the one who gave her those overpowered green orb thingies in the first place, and the only reason Tempest attacked Canterlot? Because he told her to do it.
 
And even before he met Tempest, he forced the pirates into obedience, drove the Hippogryffs into isolation, and then when he finally did meet her, he manipulated her like a fiddle in order to get her to join him. Plus, he was seconds away from straight up murdering Twilight and or Tempest no less than three times within his limited screentime (which was still more than Nightmare Moon, King Sombra and Queen chrysalis got in their debut episodes).
 
Also, I personally found him really funny, and we haven’t had a funny villain since Discord and the Dazzlings. Tirek was rather boring to me once he stopped being creepy, and Nightmare Moon, Chrysalis and the Pony of Shadows had dialogue that seemed to consist of 80% villain cliches.
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@Background Pony #520A  
But what if Tempest wasn’t there?
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@genervt  
I mentioned that as “smoke in the background of one frame that you’d need a magnifying glass to see.”
 
 
@Background Pony #DAF6  
That was the scene where he got himself killed like an idiot. Not scary.
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Okay, well there is also this  
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Again, why is OP is a duck taken off of here? My
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@Background Pony #520A  
I did not even mention the comic.  
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This picture is from the movie.
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@Background Pony #DAF6  
I mean, do I really even need to refute this? If you’re so desperate to make him a good character that you’re pointing to comics and smoke in the background of one random frame that you’d need a magnifying glass to see, it’s time to admit he’s a completely awful character.
 
For the record: I liked him in the comic, but it’s irrelevant.
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@Flufux  
The official stance is that IDW has a license to use the IP. They try not to contradict known canon, but their stuff can be contradicted freely by the show with or without notice.
 
It is not that they are canon by default until contradicted. They are only ever canon if the show happens to coordinate with IDW, officially states that this particular comic/set is canon. The default is that the comics are their own continuity that happens to use similar characters, similar settings, and occasionally even has non-contradictory stories.
 
As an artist, you can draw whatever you like, inspired by either and it’s still “pony.” If you’re a fanfic writer, you can take inspiration from either. Both mediums of artist decide what is canon to their own work, as their privilege as a creator.
 
But until the show specifically references something from the comic without doing the work of showing that material within an episode, the comics are in no way canon. Even with the Legends set, every depiction of the Pillars/etc. within the show has stood on its own, exposited everything it needed to exposit, and referenced nothing in the comics. If you personally happen to like the additional material presented in the comics, and wish to treat it as “real” that’s your prerogative, but it isn’t canon simply because it uses the same material, IDW has permission to do so, or you feel it doesn’t contradict. It becomes canon if and only when the showrunner states it is and only specifically what she says is, not a drop of ink more.
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@Flufux  
Reminds me of Star War novels under Legends.
 
Many of the comics are canon, aside from the Prequels themselves.
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@BluTapeRose95  
Some comics have been disproven by the show at times (such as a lot of things involving Starswirl or how the Sirens were banished to the human world), but the official stance is that they are canon unless the show says otherwise, and the movie prequel comics have not been contradicted as of yet, and even more were made specifically to build up the specific story in the movie itself.
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@Flufux  
“Other comics”? Are you referring to the entire set of comics released, which are said to be canon, by the way?
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@Background Pony #1407  
The movie prequel comic is completely canon unlike the many other comics, since it was made by people who had to work with the finished script and so far nothing has come to contradict it in any way.
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Let’s not forget this
 
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@Flufux  
Gee, it sure is good that that evidence came from the movie itself and not from some comic of dubious canonicity that nobody read.
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But all of the villians have done something that could have hurt someone. It didn’t, so it doesn’t matter.
 
On this picture the Storm King is only one second away from killing Twily and Fizzle.  
If her friends smashed into him a few moments later they would have been dead.
 
You’re thinking of Discord.
 
No, I´m thinking of the Storm King.  
Discord isn´t just funny, he is hilarious.
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@Background Pony #DAF6  
But all of the villians have done something that could have hurt someone. It didn’t, so it doesn’t matter.
 
@genervt  
You’re thinking of Discord.
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He was funny and menacing at once.  
A good villain.
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@Background Pony #520A  
Well it could have. Some of his own minons were blown away.