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My argument (which I’M hoping to derail this thread with into something more interesting) is that MLP doesn’t really have anything over these children’s shows.
 
Feel free to go ahead and watch some episodes of Dink on YouTube. Who knows, maybe you’ll fall for it and found a new “dinkie” movement too!
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You are calling Dink shitty, but I dare you to prove that MLP has better writing.
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Pomegranates :P
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That looks like a Land Before Time knock-off.
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A spin-off with green dinosaur Spike, some lizard that looks like Gummy and a grown-up Tank? Not bad, I might check this out. Oh, if only I still had a VHS…
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@Vree
 
Sarcastically equating Season 4 to a shitty kids show isn’t a very good argument.
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Hey bronies! I have a whole new show for you to watch…  
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I hear it’s as good as season 4!
 
Full of messages about friendship!
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@PonyPon
 
I’ve heard every argument, and I don’t think any of them hold water.
 
Twilight isn’t going to overshadow all of her friends, we know that because all of the other characters are all but confirmed to get their own focus. She’s not suddenly overpowered, because even as an alicorn there are still things she can’t do. She has doubts about herself, and is clearly still learning. Most importantly, she’s a strongly-defined character, which a Mary Sue by definition cannot be.
 
@ClownDicks
 
What vacuum?
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Zenn, do you even want to get it?
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Those things don’t exist in a vacuum.
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@The Twelfth Doctor Whoof
 
You know, when I first head about Twilicorn, my reaction was “holy shit, that’s the most awesome thing ever!” I still don’t understand what all this rage is all about.
 
I mean, sure, the dynamic has changed, but I can’t see how it’s for the worse when we’ll still have the same strong characters, great music, and quirky humor we’ve always had.
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Pomegranates :P
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Twilight lacks charisma.
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@ClownDicks
 
Go ahead and explain it to me, then, because I fail to see how the other Mane 6 are “inferior” when they each have their own unique skills and accomplishments that Twilight couldn’t do by herself.
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>”Social inferiority” doesn’t exist.
 
Dot. Dot. Dot.
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@The Twelfth Doctor Whoof
 
“Social inferiority” doesn’t exist. Friends are friends, regardless of their background. Hell, this is actually a wonderful lesson for the kids watching at home: just because someone is on a different perceived social level doesn’t mean you can’t be friends
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Pomegranates :P
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Dude!  
Something like that needs to happen in the show!
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Yes, Avatar was Aang’s story, and yet they manage to make all the character in the main cast vital to the story. Even the Kyoshi warriors and the White Lotus are important. How would a slice-of-life can even pull of making a single character out of 6 main ones the only focus?
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I’m not the one with the bad attitude, it seems. You are putting words in my mouth.
 
When did I ever say that the Mane 5 wouldn’t try to be Twilight’s friends? I didn’t. What I did say was that they are socially inferior to her, not that they couldn’t be friends. HOWEVER, the relationship dynamic has changed, and I believe it changed for the worse.
 
It’s a class thing, essentially.
 
Oh, and according to Celestia, Twilight IS the only one who ever does anything important.
 
And WHEN did I call Twi a Sue in this thread? I haven’t - at least not here (I did, however, use those words and justify them point-by-point in the forums).
 
Perhaps ironically, I actually have more faith in the folks at IDW to get it right than I do Meghan and the DHX staff at this point. That said, I await Season 4. The fact that at least two of the first nine episodes don’t seem to revolve around Twilight is a good sign, though.
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@Grieffon  
You make a very good point. (and Avatar is awesome)
 
However, there is one major difference. Avatar was always Aang’s story, and it never had any pretense to being anything else. MLP:FiM, on the other hand - though the “adventure” episodes are clearly Twilight Sparkle’s story - the vast majority of the series is clearly a slice-of-life ensemble show. That’s why (save for Rarity being inadvertently shut out of S3) every season gave the major characters one or two episodes of their own where Twilight’s impact on the story was minimal to nonexistent.
 
Avatar was never slice-of-life, not even the “breather” episodes.
 
The concern, and I feel it’s a legitimate one, is that Twilicorn will be a narrative black-hole wherein the story focuses only on her, which is the absolute worst thing that could happen from a storytelling perspective. FiM has an ensemble; they need to develop it in relation to each other, not to Twilight; that’s already been done… a lot.
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Well, she’s almost certainly not going to be in a top leadership position right away, that’s why she’s still learning. Celestia and Luna are still obviously the heads of state for Equestria, and that’s not going to change any time soon.
 
Cadance was a princess, but she never really got around to ruling anything until the after Season 3.
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All-powerful alicorns makes their friends inferior right guys?
 
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And ended up with Napoleon, Communism, and Communism.
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Pomegranates :P
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Royalty is overrated. Therefore, the French, Russians, and Chinese got rid of theirs’.
 
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Simple as that.