Greg Universe

@Background Pony #F931  
No moreso than MLP was “hijacked” by adults. Both shows are aimed at kids but accessible to everyone, which is why I love ’em both.
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@Background Pony #F931  
I’ll have to take your word for that. I’ve actually never even heard of it until it was brought up here.
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@40kponyguy  
Isn’t steven universe actually also for kids? But it also got Hijacked by tumblr and so has its own “older fandom?”
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@Phantom Rider  
This gets spoilery, so:
 
In the episode “Jailbreak”, the character Garnet is revealed to be a fusion of two characters, Ruby and Sapphire, who kiss and fuse back together upon being reunited. Garnet, when fighting the villain who denounces fusion as a cheap tactic, says “I think you’re just mad because you’re single,” making it clear what kind of relationship the two have. She also says she’s literally “made of love,” so take that as you will.
 
But that’s not the obvious part. It comes later in the episode “Love Letters,” where the postman Jamie wants to date Garnet. Then the following lines are said: “Garnet’s already in a relationship!”, followed with the clarification, “She is a relationship!”
 
Also, yeah, creators confirmed it on Twitter as with Korra. But the onscreen evidence is pretty blatant here.
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@Background Pony #8149  
Yeah, I don’t think the intent was that the kids were definitely not his. That’s probably even why the kids are different races from each other - the implication gets more serious if they’re both unicorns or both pegasi. With Mr. Cake coming up with this off-the-wall explanation and trying to convince himself, it’s definitely the joke they were making (and that’s all I was saying) but it is just a joke.
 
@Greg Universe  
I’ll have to check it out. If the confirmation is outright, then I still won’t be surprised if it turns out the show is not a kid-targeted one even if it happens to be animated.
 
It would be pretty cool if it was exactly as you make it sound. I really want you to be right, but I don’t get my hopes up for it when that just doesn’t happen and every other case where it supposedly did proved to be at best like Korra where “confirmed” equals “no onscreen evidence, he just said a thing on Twitter.” I guess there is a first time for everything, but you see where I’m coming from.
 
So, in which episode were two female characters said to be in a relationship?
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If it had kept going, “Incestuous lesbian horse noises”
Background Pony #5878
@Background Pony #8149  
Eh, either way though, my conclusion is that I still firmly believe the kids are his.
 
Not even the infertility alternative I threw out before explains the twins being difference races, and as a bonus it may be possible that magic could be used to fix infertility in Equestria anyway (emphasize the MAYBE, of course), so it’s possible that infertility might not be an issue for ponies.
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@Phantom Rider  
Most definitely not my cup of tea when it comes to jokes, as I feel it’s not something to be joking about, especially in a show like this, but I’ll take that over people claiming a serious implication of something horrible anyday.
 
And yeah, the whole thing with one being a unicorn and the other being a pegasus does throw a huge wrench in any ideas about the kids somehow not being his.
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@Phantom Rider  
That’s one interpretation. The other is that the joke was on how complicated distant relation links can get, with how confused he was getting at how many greats he had to add.
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@Background Pony #8149  
They were joking at it. Far from conclusive because the kids are twins and one’s a unicorn and one’s a pegasus; obviously a child can be different races from the parents. But they (as in the writers) were joking at it; take it out on those who’ll point it out as much as you want to, that’s still the joke.
Background Pony #5878
@Background Pony #8149  
Alternatively, if you’re dead set on the kids not being his biologically, and you want a non-shitty explanation, maybe he’s infertile, and they were forced to accept a sperm donation or something as a last resort because they really wanted kids. Could also explain his nervousness, because he’s embarrassed about it, or just doesn’t want other ponies to know.
 
Not exactly gonna be one of my favorite headcanons either, but at least it doesn’t imply that a character is being a terrible person.
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@40kponyguy
 
@Phantom Rider  
Or maybe pony genetics just don’t work the way you think, which seems pretty goddamn likely to some extent or another. The show is more mature than most children’s cartoons, but that doesn’t mean there has to be some secret explanation or detail behind every little thing.
 
Either way, cheaters are scum, and I certainly can’t imagine Mrs Cake being a cheater. Especially given the fact that love and friendship and other positive values and held in such high regard in Equestria, and even have physical manifestations of magic.
 
Of course, you headcanon whatever, I can’t stop you, but I will very strongly disagree with you. I think it’s an absolutely terrible idea.
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@Greg Universe  
Er, they do it on-screen, I mean. Just for clarification.
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@Phantom Rider  
In SU’s case, they directly refer to the characters in question as being “in a relationship” and, from the context, it’s clear they mean it in a romantic sense.
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@Background Pony #8149  
Yeah, there’s no way the part where Mr Cake comes up with a half-baked explanation as to how it’s possible and is like “that makes sense, right?” could possibly be hinting at anything. XD
 
@Greg Universe  
Yeah, a very clear-cut case of “I don’t have the guts to do it onscreen, so I’ll just say I did once the show is safely over,” in Korra’s case. I’d rather they not even pretend like that. (I don’t watch Steven Universe, but I’d bet real money it’s either a similar case - though they get at least one point for not waiting until after the show is over if so - or a show not targeted at kids at all even if it happens to be animated.)
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@Background Pony #8149  
The way he explains it sounds like the comment ‘Dark Helmet’ comes out with in ‘Spaceballs’ when he faces Lonestar.  
“There is something you should know. I was your sister’s, brother’s uncle’s nephew’s former room mate” (Or something like that). (Which would actually make them former room mates as it happens).
 
I can’t remember what he says in the Baby Cakes episode, but it basically says the relation was something like his brother’s wife’s aunt twice removed or something. They’re not even properly related.
Background Pony #5878
Similar to the ‘Baby Cakes’ episode where it was blatant that the kids weren’t his.
 
That’s BS.
 
It’s seems pretty likely that pony genetics allows for other races to potentially be born from say, two earth pony parents. Maybe it’s not a common occurrence, but it does make sense.
 
Do you also have some sort of conspiracy as to why the colors of certain ponies don’t match their parents?
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@Greg Universe  
Both of which (I haven’t watched), are aimed at an older audience, and have a smaller following.
 
I know what you’re saying. As I stated, I’m a parent myself, and I think it’s pointless to try to hide the fact that same-sex relationships exist. There are other parents out there that do not feel the same way however.
 
Still, this episode did hint that the two are ‘more than friends’ without outright saying it.  
Similar to the ‘Baby Cakes’ episode where it was blatant that the kids weren’t his. The reference would fly clean over the heads of the younger audience, but parents could have a laugh about it.
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@Marusame  
That article felt very tumblry, not gonna lie.
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@martianmister
 
In both Korra’s and SU’s case, it was confirmed by the show staff itself. Pretty clear-cut in those instances.
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I think this episode did more for shipping than it did to it - it firmly establishes them as very close and not just ponies who happened to be standing together a couple of times, and they talked about how good “friends” they were while making half-lidded expressions at each other the whole time and then we go into an argument that has them sounding like a sitcom married couple arguing, and once it’s resolved they’re right back to “>> best friends.” And if Lyra can eat Bon Bon’s special oats, they probably _do live together.
 
Don’t know what more we could ask for, realistically. I think we all know it’s still the wrong decade for us to seriously expect a reveal that they’re actually married and Tootsie Flute is their magical lesbian baby to happen in a Saturday morning cartoon.
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@Greg Universe  
They implied it, not done it.
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@40kponyguy
 
Half a century ago, interracial couples were just as controversial. Society marches on, and with it, so does the art reflecting it.
 
I don’t really care if Lyra and Bon Bon are a couple or not; But I don’t think “It’s a kids’ show” really flies as a reason to avoid same-sex relationships today, especially when (as others have pointed out) shows like Korra and Steven Universe have already done it without much outcry.
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AimingToPlease,OftenMiss
@Ferrotter  
I think it’s more a case of avoiding an outcry from parents with children in the original target audience (like me as it happens, although one of my missus’ younger sisters is ‘that way’, so it’s kinda pointless trying to hide such things from my own daughter).
 
They had enough of an outcry when they first gave Derpy a voice. Imagine what the response would be from those parents that don’t approve of single gender relationships?
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Why wouldn’t Hasbro let them? Their most famous and successful CEO was gay. Steven D. Hassenfeld was probably the third most famous person to die of AIDS, after Rock Hudson and Freddie Mercury.