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I’ll have to admit that Forgotten Friendship does add ground to the anger issues idea. It raises the “percentage” and the consistency enough for it to be plausible, because it was a really intense moment of anger. Probably her most intense post-reform.
However I will still say that before Forgotten Friendship she really didn’t seem like that to me. I think I’ve said all I could possibly say about why I thought so. Just because you disagree with my take on the depiction of her character, doesn’t mean I’m “rejecting reality”. You’re way too certain that your interpretation can be the only correct one, and when someone doesn’t see things the way you do you can’t deal with it and convince yourself they’re “ignoring facts” or lying. Just stop and look at what you’re imagining of me calmly for a second. Do you really think someone would decide they want to hate Sunset Shimmer for no particular reason (especially while liking EqG in general), and create “a mask of logic” just to seem more convincing? I mean, some trolls go pretty far, but that’s a completely ridiculous idea, yet you seem sure that’s what I’m doing just because you can’t accept that someone doesn’t share your perspective.
To “reject reality” some more:
In the Trixie scene I always thought the red cheeks were because of embarassment. And our opinions on this clearly differ, but I don’t think nobody else would’ve yelled at Trixie there in Sunset’s place. To me, anger issues would require snapping at little things which don’t justify the anger. Like being annoyed by someone making a loud sound or talking too much or something.
The Sci-Twi snap, as I said before, was a good moment of characterization the likes of which I thought we didn’t get enough of, so I can’t say anything against that since I agree it was a good moment for Sunset’s character.
The first movie really doesn’t count towards the argument on the other hand, because the argument was that she didn’t retain any of the flaws after being reformed. It’s just showing that she had those characteristics, not that they stayed with her, which is the part I’ve been disagreeing with.
Anyway, I know you see your opinion about this as cold hard reality that I “reject”, but I still stand by my opinion that if Sunset is meant to have anger issues, they’ve not been showing it strongly enough.
Thing is, the percentage might be similar to the mane6’s flaws being shown, but that’s not an excuse. Because we see Sunset so much less than the main pony characters, it just means that Sunset should’ve been characterized more intensely. If we see a character less, but the character is meant to be as well-characterized as others that have seasons of exposure, the characterization of this character should be much more concentrated. “Well, we just see less of her, which is why we see less of all the interesting stuff she must be doing” isn’t a good excuse IMO.
Again, though, I have to reiterate, Forgotten Friendship indeed did raise the legitimacy of the anger issues flaw in my opinion so now I can agree that it’s a real part of her characterization. Still, my “reality” is that throughout the movies and shorts, it wasn’t expressed well enough to contribute significantly to her characterization.
I’ll have to admit that Forgotten Friendship does add ground to the anger issues idea. It raises the “percentage” and the consistency enough for it to be plausible, because it was a really intense moment of anger. Probably her most intense post-reform.
However I will still say that before Forgotten Friendship she really didn’t seem like that to me. I think I’ve said all I could possibly say about why I thought so. Just because you disagree with my take on the depiction of her character, doesn’t mean I’m “rejecting reality”. You’re way too certain that your interpretation can be the only correct one, and when someone doesn’t see things the way you do you can’t deal with it and convince yourself they’re “ignoring facts” or lying. Just stop and look at what you’re imagining of me calmly for a second. Do you really think someone would decide they want to hate Sunset Shimmer for no particular reason (especially while liking EqG in general), and create “a mask of logic” just to seem more convincing? I mean, some trolls go pretty far, but that’s a completely ridiculous idea, yet you seem sure that’s what I’m doing just because you can’t accept that someone doesn’t share your perspective.
To “reject reality” some more:
In the Trixie scene I always thought the red cheeks were because of embarassment. And our opinions on this clearly differ, but I don’t think nobody else would’ve yelled at Trixie there in Sunset’s place. To me, anger issues would require snapping at little things which don’t justify the anger. Like being annoyed by someone making a loud sound or talking too much or something.
The Sci-Twi snap, as I said before, was a good moment of characterization the likes of which I thought we didn’t get enough of, so I can’t say anything against that since I agree it was a good moment for Sunset’s character.
The first movie really doesn’t count towards the argument on the other hand, because the argument was that she didn’t retain any of the flaws after being reformed. It’s just showing that she had those characteristics, not that they stayed with her, which is the part I’ve been disagreeing with.
Anyway, I know you see your opinion about this as cold hard reality that I “reject”, but I still stand by my opinion that if Sunset is meant to have anger issues, they’ve not been showing it strongly enough.
Thing is, the percentage might be similar to the mane6’s flaws being shown, but that’s not an excuse. Because we see Sunset so much less than the main pony characters, it just means that Sunset should’ve been characterized more intensely. If we see a character less, but the character is meant to be as well-characterized as others that have seasons of exposure, the characterization of this character should be much more concentrated. “Well, we just see less of her, which is why we see less of all the interesting stuff she must be doing” isn’t a good excuse IMO.
Again, though, I have to reiterate, Forgotten Friendship indeed did raise the legitimacy of the anger issues flaw in my opinion so now I can agree that it’s a real part of her characterization. Still, my “reality” is that throughout the movies and shorts, it wasn’t expressed well enough to contribute significantly to her characterization.
