Mayojar77
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@lasthorizon  
Either way, your entire justification that they’re the only aristocracy is that they are in the capital city, yet much richer people shown so far tend to not hang around Canterlot for much. Your logic is flawed and based entirely on assumptions with no basis in fact relating to how the world works.
lasthorizon

@Mayojar77  
>Celestia can’t personally oversee the enrolment roster for that particular event  
Enrollment? It was a competition, I would assume she can occasionaly attend small town events.
 
>then how come only vapid and useless nobles live there?  
They may have actual jobs offscreen. Like I said earlier, if they really are vapid and useless then why are they even there in the first place?
Mayojar77
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@lasthorizon  
In response to five, Celestia can’t personally oversee the enrolment roster for that particular event, especially since it’s very much a ‘first come first served’ sort of deal. And as for six, then how come only vapid and useless nobles live there? There doesn’t seem to be many business tycoons in Canterlot, and very few people seem to have actual employment.
lasthorizon

@Prof.NightJack  
Goodbye
 
@Mayojar77  
  1. Im sure lots of things happen in every town, nothing of extreme significance that happens in canterlot though.  
  2. Okay?  
  3. Okay?  
  4. Okay?  
  5. It was the best young flyer competition and I dont see how that holds much significance. Celestia may have attended for the Element of Loyalty or she may do stuff like this for all city events.  
  6. It is the most significant.
     
    Sorry about 2 3, and 4, it appears I may have lost track to which comment was responding to which.
Mayojar77
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  1. Everything seems to happen in Ponyville.  
  2. That little border dispute nearly turned into a war.  
  3. If Applejack never returned, the Elements of Harmony would be useless.  
  4. Applejack, again, was in the wrong place to be an Element of Harmony.  
  5. If Cloudsdale isn’t important, why did Celestia see fit to go to the best flyer competition?  
  6. What you’re implying is that Only Canterlot is significant beyond background events.
Prof.NightJack
Equality - In our state, we do not stand out.
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@lasthorizon  
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lasthorizon

@Prof.NightJack  
The fight did not happen at ponyville, it happened at a place of ancient significance that happened to be somewhat near ponyville.
lasthorizon

@Prof.NightJack  
>you remember the ancient castle they found them in, that is said in canon to be the old home of the royal sisters before Luna was Nightmare Moon  
And it was then moved to Canterlot.
 
>and we know nothing of what type of ponies made of the most of that area at that time, so for all we know it was all even and in one city then they broke off into a bunch of other cites with each one having a population made of mostly one type.  
Now you appear to be the one speculating, I acknowledge that this is possible, but from what equestria is in current day, it now appears that the EOH city is dominated by Unicorns.
Prof.NightJack
Equality - In our state, we do not stand out.
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Gizmonics Scientist
@lasthorizon  
>Since when have nation wide important things happened there?  
Umm, Nightmare Moon fight, it was ll in and near Ponyville, I think it’s pertty big if the sealed away treat comes back and then you get the second princess back.
lasthorizon

@Mayojar77  
>Then how do you explain Ponyville? Or Appleoosa? Or Dodge? Or Manehattan? Or Cloudsdale?  
Since when have nation wide important things happened there? Important things can happen there but not on the scale of canterlot. And are you implying that the capital is just as important as ponyville?
Prof.NightJack
Equality - In our state, we do not stand out.
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Gizmonics Scientist
@lasthorizon  
That same canon don’t say that unicorns alone are the elite…
Prof.NightJack
Equality - In our state, we do not stand out.
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Gizmonics Scientist
@lasthorizon  
Yes it is, it’s wrong to assume it’s the only place for the elite to be, and it wasn’t the only place the Elements where, you remember the ancient castle they found them in, that is said in canon to be the old home of the royal sisters before Luna was Nightmare Moon, and we know nothing of what type of ponies made of the most of that area at that time, so for all we know it was all even and in one city then they broke off into a bunch of other cites with each one having a population made of mostly one type.
Mayojar77
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@lasthorizon  
Oh, so only important things happen in the capital cities? Then how do you explain Ponyville? Or Appleoosa? Or Dodge? Or Manehattan? Or Cloudsdale? Face it, your reasoning is based on an incomplete data set. Go rewatch all the episodes.
lasthorizon

@Mayojar77  
The canon that you are quoting off of does not enforce equality, it only enforces that other races ‘can’ be rich and smart in certain cases, but the overall point still stands that unicorn are to be considered the elite.
lasthorizon

@Prof.NightJack  
Canterlot is where the royalty is stationed, as well as the elements of harmony and were most operations seem to happen. Is it wrong to assume that that is the capital and hence since the capital is dominated by unicorns that unicorns could be considered the overall elite in social structure?
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Pfft, damn racists. Earth Ponies are damn awesome. Look at Big Macintosh.
Mayojar77
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@lasthorizon  
Actually, you’ve been completely disregarding the parts of canon that enforce equality. Therefore, your speculation is just crazy rambling.
Haagel
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@Hippob4
 
Yeah but they still are just antagonists. When I say villain I mean someone who poses a serious threat to other ponies like NMM, Discord or Sombra did.
 
(Off-topic but I never got over the fact that in that episode Apples and FlimFlam brothers bet was about rights to sell cider and not about the whole damn farm but after the competition they were claiming that the farm belongs to the brothers and the Apples were planning on leaving too. It’s like there was a mix up in the script or something.)
Prof.NightJack
Equality - In our state, we do not stand out.
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Gizmonics Scientist
@lasthorizon  
You dismissed my statement about how the social structure seems even, when I pointed out that some cites have populations made up mostly of one type of pony, by saying we didn’t see much other then unicorns as aristocratic elite, when the only ones we say where in the city made up of mostly unicorns.  
Oh yes because the aristocratic elite only live in the one city….  
This is why I think you are an idiot, there would be aristocratic elite in ALL the cities, not just one.
lasthorizon

@Mayojar77  
Even if what I’m saying is speculation it is logical speculation, and i’ve been in the fandom for over 2 years btw.
lasthorizon

@Mayojar77  
>Well, seeing as the play is based in fact in universe  
We have no way of knowing if the play is absolute fact, and is the only evidence that they cant.
 
>And if they only go to parties or go shopping or whatever all day, I highly doubt anybody would care what those racist asses do.  
Then what would be their purpose in the first place?
Mayojar77
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@lasthorizon  
Actually, it’s all based on canon.  
And I say you must be new because you seem to be grossly misinformed on even the most vague of details.
lasthorizon

@Prof.NightJack  
Most of what you said can be considered speculation too.
Mayojar77
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

@lasthorizon  
Well, seeing as the play is based in fact in universe, and seeing as flowers are usually no more than a light garnish like parsley, my point is still accurate. And I only stated that Stinking and Filthy got rich because of their own efforts. And if they only go to parties or go shopping or whatever all day, I highly doubt anybody would care what those racist asses do.
lasthorizon

@Mayojar77  
I’m new for having a different perspective? Not everyone see’s the way you do, just sayin.