Poll on the Direction of the Current Proposals

Poll results: What should happen next

It goes too far, the old rules worked fine for a decade, we should keep them.
54.49% 588 votes
It doesn't go far enough, all images with Nazi imagery should be banned.
31.60% 341 votes
I'm worried about how hard it will be to enforce consistently.
7.23% 78 votes
I agree with what's proposed, and think it will be fair and transparent.
6.67% 72 votes

Poll ended with 1079 votes.

Background Pony #7AC2
@Background Pony #AD1A  
Perhaps they bothered to go look and see that one of its active threads is literally a nazi indoctrination thread???
 
That said I think this entire thing is kind of missing the point - rules should focus mainly on the behavior of USERS, with art coming secondary to that. There is no option for that in the poll though.
Background Pony #7AC2
@Background Pony #4A5B  
It depends on how they look at the results, really. Will those that agree with the proposal and think it doesn’t go far enough be added? There are essentially three options dividing the ‘agree with the rule change at least tentatively’ vote.
Background Pony #7AC2
@Frosku  
This is a fairly dishonest way of looking at things. ‘The mob’, ‘freedom crowd’, ‘censorship crowd’.
 
I think most people don’t really care about aryanne to be honest from a rule standpoint, they are much more concerned about the blatantly racist behavior of some users on the site. For some reason every proposed rule change - at least afaik - has been focused on artwork. People are using a fictional character made to be a living shitpost as a shield from critique. Its just a way to try to muddle the issue instead of actually addressing it.
thatguywhocouldntresistponies
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Are we okay with WWII? Sure.  
Do we want Pro-Nazi imagery? Fuck no.
 
If you want Nazis garbage to be hosted here, just fuck off. Apparently there’s barely any actual nazi tags or nazis here to begin with, so nothing is lost here. Just nuke it and get it over with.
Background Pony #7AC2
@Background Pony #C37A  
Still holding hope that given that they - for whatever reason - divided the ‘agree’ vote three ways they will at least add the ‘agree with the rules’ and ‘agree but they don’t go far enough’ votes together.
Background Pony #AD1A
Are we okay with WWII? Sure.
Do we want Pro-Nazi imagery? Fuck no.
If you want Nazis garbage to be hosted here, just fuck off. Apparently there’s barely any actual nazi tags or nazis here to begin with, so nothing is lost here. Just nuke it and get it over with.
 
In contrary, it takes up little space on Derpibooru so why get so up in arms over something so inconsequential in the grand scheme? Why forfeit general artistic freedoms over a minuscule fraction of people you hate?
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@thatguywhocouldntresistponies
 
Huh, look at that. Someone who last interacted with the site two years ago prior to this post. Single digit comments for a 6 year old account, six favourites ever. Only two forum posts are the ones in this thread.
 
I’d ask you why we should consider you legit. full
Background Pony #8FA6
As a side note I will never “just use the filters” on the content we are talking about because I don’t filter potentially rule breaking content because I want to report it to the mods.
 
 
@Background Pony #AD1A  
on the contrary, it’s such a small percentage that it should be no problem at all to just get rid of all the troll bait content
Background Pony #7AC2
@Iamunknown  
Do you think they foresaw this through a premonition eight years ago? A lot of people came to this site and then left because of the same conditions that now led to this moment and returned through hope that maybe something will be done about it.
Background Pony #8FA6
@Boxless  
But all the unwanted content I don’t want to see is rule breaking content.
 
#4 Use filters to hide unwanted content and follow local content law
Derpibooru is extremely permissive as to what we allow on this website, which means we allow images that contain themes which some may find objectionable. To help you avoid seeing images you may not wish to see, we have a tag filtering system, which allows for hiding of images that contain specific tags.
If you see images that contain themes you do not like, you should add the appropriate tags to your filter. Do not post comments complaining about the theme of the image.
If you find an image that you believe violates the site’s rules or content guidelines, please report the image so that the site’s staff may look into it. Do not post comments claiming an image violates the site’s rules.
Do not view or post any content you are forbidden from in your jurisdiction. For images, filter them.
Background Pony #AD1A
As a side note I will never “just use the filters” on the content we are talking about because I don’t filter potentially rule breaking content because I want to report it to the mods.
@Background Pony #AD1A
on the contrary, it’s such a small percentage that it should be no problem at all to just get rid of all the troll bait content
 
Yes because this is totally about the evil nazis and not actually a concern about censorship. It will definitely stop here.  
Filters exist for a reason. You choosing not to use them is on you and shouldn’t be on the website to remove things you personally dislike. I hate nazis too but whether there is Aryanne art on here doesn’t cause any impact and isn’t magically breeding more nazis.
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@Background Pony #7AC2  
I find it concerning that the anonposting is all in favor of censorship. Surely if you are going to stand for something it’d be more credible to actually associate it to your name.
 
Well congrats to said person. They could have said something then, why is it suddenly an issue now? Surely in your / their belief if this is so wrong it should have been addressed immediately!
 
Or they barely interacted with Derpibooru and forgot their account existed until called to arms to brigade the site.
Background Pony #7AC2
@Background Pony #AD1A  
Okay, but would you oppose banning USERS whose behavior is racist or whom fill the comment sections with random vapid bullshit about fascism? Or people who post images blatantly attempting to act as a stand-in for posing such things?
Background Pony #7AC2
@Iamunknown  
Mate, a site enforcing a ToS isn’t ‘censorship’, for one. For two, I’m more concerned about users that are racist and openly stan for nazism than I am with a fictional character made to be a shit post - but there isn’t really an option on the poll for that is there?
Background Pony #AD1A
@Background Pony #7AC2  
Users harassing others or making lazy politically extreme rhetoric in the comments are not equal to the whole issue of hosting art. Sure you can make some “but they’re both freedom of expression!!” claim, but we all know they’re not equal and this kind of gotcha is just obvious bait.
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