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Now now...be nice. :)


 
Ledvi means well, it's just that all of his cards are OP. Idk why. Adding up values isn't exactly rocket science??


 
But yeah, 1st rule of TCGs:
 
the players will always adjust to the best card in each category. It doesn't matter if there are 100 perfectly balanced cards and just 1 that is slightly better than the rest: that 1 will become the norm.


 
I actually did some beta testing for a CCG where the _*owners_* didn't understand this, and kept releasing 'premium' cards slightly ahead of the curve (they were basically being greedy bastard, obviously).


 
But this ALWAYS shot them in the foot, because you just can't do that! All my work on balancing the meta became meaningless, because the meta standard was pushed elsewhere where people didn't even have to look at the other cards. (since they had automatically become trash.)


 
So they had to undo the changes (and they actually tried this a few times: release an OP card, then immediately change it after the complaints) but that too is a horrible decision. Becaue you get the "all nerfs are bad" guys, who are ANOTHER type of idiot, who, despite all evidence, insist that the entire game should be brought up to the power level of that ONE card, and that 'nerfing' (balancing) ruins the game. All so that they don't lose the card they had won/bought. So irresponsible.
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"@Marioland":/1213596#comment_5290137
Now now...be nice. :)

Ledvi means well, it's just that all of his cards are OP. Idk why. Adding up values isn't exactly rocket science??

But yeah, 1st rule of TCGs:
the players will always adjust to the best card in each category. It doesn't matter if there are 100 perfectly balanced cards and just 1 that is slightly better than the rest: that 1 will become the norm.

I actually did some beta testng for a CCG where the _owners_ didn't understand this, and kept releasing 'premium' cards slightly ahead of the curve (they were basically being greedy bastard, obviously).

But this ALWAYS shot them in the foot, because you just can't do that! All my work on balancing the meta became meaningless, because the meta standard was pushed elsewhere where people didn't even have to look at the other cards. (since they had automatically become trash.)

So they had to undo the changes (and they actually tried this a few times: release an OP card, then immediately change it after the complaints) but that too is a horrible decision. Becaue you get the "all nerfs are bad" guys, who are ANOTHER type of idiot, who, despite all evidence, insist that the entire game should be brought up to the power level of that ONE card, and that 'nerfing' (balancing) ruins the game. All so that they don't lose the card they had won/bought. So irresponsible.
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Vree
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"@Marioland":/1213596#comment_5290137
Now now...be nice. :)

Ledvi means well, it's just that all of his cards are OP. Idk why. Adding up values isn't exactly rocket science??

But yeah, 1st rule of TCGs:
the players will always adjust to the best card in each category. It doesn't matter if there are 100 perfectly balanced card and just 1 that is slightly better than the rest: that 1 will become the norm.

I actually did some beta testng for a CCG where the _owners_ didn't understand this, and kept releasing 'premium' cards slightly ahead of the curve (they were basically being greedy bastard, obviously).

But this ALWAYS shot them in the foot, because you just can't do that! All my work on balancing the meta became meaningless, ecause the meta standard was pushed elsewhere where people didn't even have to look at the other cards. (since they had automatically become trash.)

So they had to undo the changes (and they actually tried this a few times: release an OP card, then immediately change it after the complaints) but that too is a horrible decision. Becaue you get the "all nerfs are bad" guys, who are ANOTHER type of idiot, who, despite all evidence, insist that the entire game should be brought up to the power level of that ONE card, and that 'nerfing' (balancing) ruins the game. All so that they don't lose the card they had won/bought. So irresponsible.
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