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"[@Background Pony #4312":](/1406253#comment_6005202
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Yes, I fully agree. While some teens are vicious, as I wrote bellow it's **far** from all of them, and as I wrote bellow, the Teens are Jerks trope, at least as it's most often as it's opresented, comes of as unrealistic, and in generall, makes characters very unlikable. There is a reason why western teen dramas/series about teens (whoich allmost allways use the Teens are Jerks trope), are the subject of ridicule. Or even comparing a work to a teen drama is at times an insult within itself.


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[@Esteban":](/1406253#comment_6003460
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I can get what you mean. This story has potential, and show Celestia to grow into the good leader she, and as LuminaZero brought up on the other page from the comic:
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[@LuminoZero":](/1406252#comment_5999645
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> I like this version of Celestia. Because she's a big sister. She's not perfect all the time, she makes mistakes and this makes the sudden pain she feels with fighting Luna later all the more heartbreaking, because she'd likely think back on moments like this with unimaginable guilt.


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> -Lumino [/bq]



 
The problem is, due to the fact writters think the exagerated form of Teens are Jerks trope, most often ruins characters, and there are clues this trope will be used, seeing how people, even on this page, are misguided "Teens are Jerks" is "realistic", and a good trope, even though backfires, many more times than contributes to a good characterisation. It's notable this, and the previous preview page, are the first _***canon*_** instance that uses the "[Bitchlestia tag":](https://derpibooru.org/tags/bitchlestia), and not a fan art, or edit.


 
Along with the stuff like I discussed before _*Princess Knave_* being implied in this comic to be soemething Starswol often calls Celestia, implying she may be here presented as pretty mean pony overally, and how she is written, she won't come off as an appealling character in this comic in the end.


 
To be clear though, as mentioned a couple times bellow, **I do hope I'm wrong**, and I'm just nitpicking on something, before it even came out. (and yes, I do agree I was to emotional/judgemental at the start).


 
And not to mention, if I we agreed on everying with yo here, and had no doubts and fears about this comic, we wouldn't have a discussion at all XD

"@Background Pony #4312":/1406253#comment_6005202
Yes, I fully agree. While some teens are vicious, as I wrote bellow it's *far* from all of them, and the Teens are Jerks trope, at least most often as it's oresented, comes of as unrealistic, and in generall, makes characters very unlikable. There is a reason why western teen dramas/series about teens (who allmost allways use the Teens are Jerks trope), are the subject of ridicule. Or even comparing a work to a teen drama is an insult within itself.


"@Esteban":/1406253#comment_6003460
I can get what you mean. This story has potential, and show Celestia to grow into the good leader she, and as LuminaZero brought up on the other page from the comic:
"@LuminoZero":/1406252#comment_5999645
[bq="LuminoZero"] I like this version of Celestia. Because she's a big sister. She's not perfect all the time, she makes mistakes and this makes the sudden pain she feels with fighting Luna later all the more heartbreaking, because she'd likely think back on moments like this with unimaginable guilt.

-Lumino [/bq]

The problem is, due to the fact writters think the exagerated form of Teens are Jerks trope, most often ruins characters, and there are clues this trope will be used, seeing how people, even on this page, are misguided "Teens are Jerks" is "realistic", and a good trope, even though backfires, many more times than contributes to a good characterisation. It's notable this, and the previous preview page, are the first _*canon*_ instance that uses the "Bitchlestia tag":https://derpibooru.org/tags/bitchlestia, and not a fan art, or edit.

Along with the stuff like I discussed before _Princess Knave_ being implied in this comic to be soemething Starswol often calls Celestia, implying she may be here presented as pretty mean pony overally, and how she is written, she won't come off as an appealling character in this comic in the end.

To be clear though, as mentioned a couple times bellow, *I do hope I'm wrong*, and I'm just nitpicking on something, before it even came out. (and yes, I do agree I was to emotional/judgemental at the start).

And not to mention, if I we agreed on everying with yo here, and had no doubts and fears about this comic, we wouldn't have a discussion at all XD

"@Background Pony #4312":/1406253#comment_6005202
Yes, I fully agree. While some teens are vicious, it's *far* from all of them, and the Teens are Jerks trope, at least most often as it's oresented, comes of as unrealistic, and in generall, makes characters very unlikable. There is a reason why western teen dramas/series about teens (who allmost allways use the Teens are Jerks trope), are the subject of ridicule. Or even comparing a work to a teen drama is an insult within itself.


"@Esteban":/1406253#comment_6003460
I can get what you mean. This story has potential, and show Celestia to grow into the good leader she, and as LuminaZero brought up on the other page from the comic:
"@LuminoZero":/1406252#comment_5999645
[bq="LuminoZero"] I like this version of Celestia. Because she's a big sister. She's not perfect all the time, she makes mistakes and this makes the sudden pain she feels with fighting Luna later all the more heartbreaking, because she'd likely think back on moments like this with unimaginable guilt.

-Lumino [/bq]

The problem is, due to the fact writters think the exagerated form of Teens are Jerks trope, most often ruins characters, and there are clues this trope will be used, seeing how people, even on this page, are misguided "Teens are Jerks" is "realistic", and a good trope, even though backfires, many more times than contributes to a good characterisation. It's notable this, and the previous preview page, are the first _*canon*_ instance ofthat useds the "Bitchlestia tag":https://derpibooru.org/tags/bitchlestia, and not a fan art, or edit.

Along with the stuff like I discussed before _Princess Knave_ being implied in this comic to be soemething Starswol often calls Celestia, implying she may be here presented as pretty mean pony overally, and how she is written, she won't come off as an appealling character in this comic in the end.

To be clear though, as mentioned a couple times bellow, *I do hope I'm wrong*, and I'm just nitpicking on something, before it even came out. (and yes, I do agree I was to emotional/judgemental at the start).

And not to mention, if I we agreed on everying with yo here, and had no doubts and fears about this comic, we wouldn't have a discussion at all XD

"@Background Pony #4312":/1406253#comment_6005202
Yes, I fully agree. While some teens are vicious, it's *far* from all of them, and the Teens are Jerks trope, at least most often as it's oresented, comes of as unrealistic, and in generall, makes characters very unlikable. There is a reason why western teen dramas/series about teens (who allmost allways use the Teens are Jerks trope), are the subject of ridicule. Or even comparing a work to a teen drama is an insult within itself.


"@Esteban":/1406253#comment_6003460
I can get what you mean. This story has potential, and show Celestia to grow into the good leader she, and as LuminaZero brought up on the other page from the comic:
"@LuminoZero":/1406252#comment_5999645
[bq="LuminoZero"] I like this version of Celestia. Because she's a big sister. She's not perfect all the time, she makes mistakes and this makes the sudden pain she feels with fighting Luna later all the more heartbreaking, because she'd likely think back on moments like this with unimaginable guilt.

-Lumino [/bq]

The problem is, due to the fact writters think the exagerated form of Teens are Jerks trope, most often ruins characters, and there are clues this trope will be used, seeing how people, even on this page, are misguided "Teens are Jerks" is "realistic", and a good trope, even though backfires, many more times than contributes to a good characterisation. It's notable this, and the previous preview page, are the first _*canon*_ instance of used the "Bitchlestia tag":https://derpibooru.org/tags/bitchlestia, and not a fan art, or edit.

Along with the stuff like I discussed before _Princess Knave_ being implied in this comic to be soemething Starswol often calls Celestia, implying she may be here presented as pretty mean pony overally, and how she is written, she won't come off as an appealling character in this comic in the end.

To be clear though, as mentioned a couple times bellow, *I do hope I'm wrong*, and I'm just nitpicking on something, before it even came out. (and yes, I do agree I was to emotional/judgemental at the start).

And not to mention, if I we agreed on everying with yo here, and had no doubts and fears about this comic, we wouldn't have a discussion at all XD