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Jeez, more?


 
Sounds like a bunch of linguistic pedantry to me. The point of saying something is non-canon in just about any fandom is that it's not part of the, well, canon and thus the information, characterization, stories, etc contained in the non-canon material is not applicable or relevant to the actual canon, in this case the show canon if that's a good way to word it. If something is being described as 'non-canon', nothing in them has any relevance or bearing whatsoever on the actual canon, and they aren't a valid source to make any arguments from. At most, they can be used for personal headcanon if you happen to like something in them, but nothing more.


 
And whether you call it non-canon or whatever shouldn't really matter much as long as the intended meaning is the same. I can't say I agree with you considering the popular usage of the term when it comes to fandoms in my experience (it was so widespread you even felt the need to create a meme ranting about it, after all) is in fact more in line with what I'm saying, but whatever, again, it's just linguistic pedantry.


 
I will say that it does in fact mean that the comics do not count, certainly not for anything to do with the show canon. They're absolutely equivalent to fanfiction in relevance to the show's canon and it's characters, worlds, and so on. That's not a value judgement on them (I've made those in other posts), or somehow saying they are illegitimate reading material, it's just saying, that if say, you and I were debating something about a character from MLP, or the setting, or whatever, and you brought up the comics, I'd probably laugh in your face. Well, not really, I try to be reasonably polite, but obviously it wouldn't be a valid or relevant source, and the information in the comics is worthless in a debate about anything other than the comics specifically. It would be like you were quoting a fanfiction to support your argument, to be frank.


 
Hopefully that makes sense. I don't agree with your picture/argument, nor would I say it invalidates anything I've said in this comments section, regardless of what words you tack on to substitute for canon. I think it's needlessly pedantic/purist to suggest people are using the word wrong though, especially when it's clear that the popular usage of the word these days is pretty obviously not the one you're pushing, at least not from what I've seen. IDW is not canon.


 
I could say more, but to be honest this is already a wall of text in a conversation that should have ended many posts ago.

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@Badheart":](/1473904#comment_6275525
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So much for that 😐😐😐
No reason given
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Rainbow Dash Retired
Wallet After Summer Sale -

"@TexasUberAlles":/1473904#comment_6275903
Jeez, more?

Sounds like a bunch of linguistic pedantry to me. The point of saying something is non-canon in just about any fandom is that it's not part of the, well, canon and thus the information, characterization, stories, etc contained in the non-canon material is not applicable or relevant to the actual canon, in this case the show canon if that's a good way to word it. If something is being described as 'non-canon', nothing in them has any relevance or bearing whatsoever on the actual canon, and they aren't a valid source to make any arguments from. At most, they can be used for personal headcanon if you happen to like something in them, but nothing more.

And whether you call it non-canon or whatever shouldn't really matter much as long as the intended meaning is the same. I can't say I agree with you considering the popular usage of the term when it comes to fandoms in my experience (it was so widespread you even felt the need to create a meme ranting about it, after all) is in fact more in line with what I'm saying, but whatever, again, it's just linguistic pedantry.

I will say that it does in fact mean that the comics do not count, certainly not for anything to do with the show canon. They're absolutely equivalent to fanfiction in relevance to the show's canon and it's characters, worlds, and so on. That's not a value judgement on them (I've made those in other posts), or somehow saying they are illegitimate reading material, it's just saying, that if say, you and I were debating something about a character from MLP, or the setting, or whatever, and you brought up the comics, I'd probably laugh in your face. Well, not really, I try to be reasonably polite, but obviously it wouldn't be a valid or relevant source, and the information in the comics is worthless in a debate about anything other than the comics specifically. It would be like you were quoting a fanfiction to support your argument, to be frank.

Hopefully that makes sense. I don't agree with your picture/argument, nor would I say it invalidates anything I've said in this comments section, regardless of what words you tack on to substitute for canon. I think it's needlessly pedantic/purist to suggest people are using the word wrong though, especially when it's clear that the popular usage of the word these days is pretty obviously not the one you're pushing, at least not from what I've seen. IDW is not canon.

I could say more, but to be honest this is already a wall of text in a conversation that should have ended many posts ago.

"@Badheart":/1473904#comment_6275525
So much for that 😐😐😐
No reason given
Edited by Rainbow Dash Retired
Rainbow Dash Retired
Wallet After Summer Sale -

"@TexasUberAlles":/1473904#comment_6275903
Jeez, more?

Sounds like a bunch of linguistic pedantry to me. The point of saying something is non-canon in just about any fandom is that it's not part of the, well, canon and thus the information, characterization, stories, etc contained in the non-canon material is not applicable or relevant to the actual canon, in this case the show canon if that's a good way to word it. If something is being described as 'non-canon', nothing in them has any relevance or bearing whatsoever on the actual canon, and they aren't a valid source to make any arguments from. At most, they can be used for personal headcanon if you happen to like something in them, but nothing more.

And whether you call it non-canon or whatever shouldn't really matter much as long as the intended meaning is the same. I can't say I agree with you considering the popular usage of the term when it comes to fandoms in my experience (it was so widespread you even felt the need to create a meme ranting about it, after all) is in fact more in line with what I'm saying, but whatever, again, it's just linguistic pedantry.

I will say that it does in fact mean that the comics do not count, certainly not for anything to do with the show canon. They're absolutely equivalent to fanfiction in relevance to the show's canon and it's characters, worlds, and so on. That's not a value judgement on them (I've made those in other posts), or somehow saying they are illegitimate reading material, it's just saying, that if say, you and I were debating something about a character from MLP, or the setting, or whatever, and you brought up the comics, I'd probably laugh in your face. Well, not really, I try to be reasonably polite, but obviously it wouldn't be a valid or relevant source, and the information in the comics is worthless in a debate about anything other than the comics specifically. It would be like you were quoting a fanfiction to support your argument, to be frank.

Hopefully that makes sense. I don't agree with your picture/argument, nor would I say it invalidates anything I've said in this comments section, regardless of what words you tack on to substitute for canon. I think it's needlessly pedantic/purist to suggest anypeonple isare using the word wrong though, especially when it's clear that the popular usage of the word these days is pretty obviously not the one you're pushing. IDW is not canon.

I could say more, but to be honest this is already a wall of text in a conversation that should have ended many posts ago.

"@Badheart":/1473904#comment_6275525
So much for that 😐😐😐
No reason given
Edited by Rainbow Dash Retired
Rainbow Dash Retired
Wallet After Summer Sale -

"@TexasUberAlles":/1473904#comment_6275903
Jeez, more?

Sounds like a bunch of linguistic pedantry to me. The point of saying something is non-canon in just about any fandom is that it's not part of the, well, canon and thus the information, characterization, stories, etc contained in the non-canon material is not applicable or relevant to the actual canon, in this case the show canon if that's a good way to word it. If something is being described as 'non-canon', nothing in them has any relevance or bearing whatsoever on the actual canon, and they aren't a valid source to make any arguments from. At most, they can be used for personal headcanon if you happen to like something in them, but nothing more.

And whether you call it non-canon or whatever shouldn't really matter much as long as the intended meaning is the same. I can't say I agree with you considering the popular usage of the term when it comes to fandoms in my experience (it was so widespread you even felt the need to create a meme ranting about it, after all) is in fact more in line with what I'm saying, but whatever, again, it's just linguistic pedantry.

I will say that it does in fact mean that the comics do not count, certainly not for anything to do with the show canon. They're absolutely equivalent to fanfiction in relevance to the show's canon and it's characters, worlds, and so on. That's not a value judgement on them (I've made those in other posts), or somehow saying they are illegitimate reading material, it's just saying, that if say, you and I were debating something about a character from MLP, or the setting, or whatever, and you brought up the comics, I'd probably laugh in your face. Well, not really, I try to be reasonably polite, but obviously it wouldn't be a valid or relevant source, and the information in the comics is worthless in a debate about anything other than the comics specifically. It would be like you were quoting a fanfiction to support your argument, to be frank.

Hopefully that makes sense. I don't agree with your picture/argument, nor would I say it invalidates anything I've said in this comments section, regardless of what words you tack on to substitute for canon. I think it's needlessly pedantic to suggest anyone is using the word wrong though, especially when it's clear that the popular usage of the word these days is pretty obviously not the one you're pushing. IDW is not canon.

I could say more, but to be honest this is already a wall of text in a conversation that should have ended many posts ago.

"@Badheart":/1473904#comment_6275525
So much for that 😐😐😐
No reason given
Edited by Rainbow Dash Retired