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Jesh Supes, you're **really** exaggerating and being very subjective, just to portray Sunset as worse than Starlight. Some blatant fanboyism here.
And tell me **how** are you not trolling, seeing you essentially want to present Sunset as badly as possibly, by at best presenting very subjective opinions and borderline manipulating facts? At a Sunset-centric announcement? Sorry, but now you are playing dumb.
The same leaps of logic about you use with Sunset, to portray her as a "bland, boring character", could be used with Starlight and **are** used by her haters, and even not haters, them claiming Starlight is sociopath, who doesn't learn on her mistakes (ie basically had two times the same problems with Sunburst, making a lot of mistakes similar to past, showing she doesn't learn or really changed), and they that these aren't flaws that make her deeper, but marks of Jerk Sue. And also the same leaps of logic you use, could be used to claim Starlight is something of a stale character - as she commits constantly the same mistakes.
Heck, using your "logic" one could say Starlight also comes of as brainwashed, rather than convinced by " natural persuasion" - at one moment, she was so blinded by revenge, she at the very least didn't notice she ruined Equestria a multiple times, or like some of her critics state, she didn't care, at least until she caused the extinction of life, a scene latter she's basically all happy, and friends with people she worked **over and over** to ruin.
(note: not something I believe, just using similar leaps of logic as you, which is ironically the same thing Starlight's haters do).
And really, "Sunset allays being a dick" from comics is non canon for a LOOONG time now since Rainbow Rocks (and most IDW comics are declared un-canon, with some exceptions like Legends of Magic). (And I mean, in the prequel comic Moonndancer looks completely different, Mooondancer, Lyra, Colgate, Lemon Heart and Twinkle Shine were shown as also much older than Twilight while in the cartoon they are exactly Twilight's age) .Sunset stated in Rainbow Rocks she had doubts all the time about what she was doing, or her words:
"Deep down, I guess I knew I was making a big mistake, and I wanted to still have a way to reach out to her (Celestia)."
Even latter comics, if non canon, shown Sunset as being very lonely, which was a reason for her descent to evil:
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And "A Friendship to Remember"/"Forgotten Friendship" further develops this characterisation, showing Sunset[spoiler]|| as confused and scared in the human world, after sacrificing all of her memories before going through the portal, and apparently the act of going through the portal and the events right before it[/spoiler]
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Not to mention, the comic even contradicted stuff in the first Equestria Girls movie - Celestia describes Sunset's departure visibly differently, Sunset in the comic is in some ways **more** mean spirited than in the movie, and Sunset words at the end tell she was motivated by lack of real bonds with others:
"But... But all I've ever done since being here is drive everyone apart. **I don't know the first thing about friendship**."
In other words, the writer of the prequel comic, screwed up.
And the writing with Sunset **does** pay of - in the (canon) Legend of Magic, Celestia was shown to being youth similar to Sunset for example, and in Forgotten Friendship, the plot is caused by Sunset's pre-redeemption behavior,[spoiler]||and Sunset's past victim of sorts not understanding how Sunset could be forgiven and accepted, while she is still lonely[/spoiler]||.
Twilight forgiving Starlight so easily, and accepting her as a student, was VERY probably because of her experiences with Sunset.
And Sunset's bond with pony Twilight is VERY important, and has impact – she yelled at Sci-Twi, as she expected her to have pony Twilight's wisdom, and behave like her. Latter, she also became so close to Sci-Twi, in part due to her bond to pony Twilight, as she stated on Facebook (in an official statement by Hasbro):
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[My friend Twilight Sparkle was there for me, and now it’s my turn to be there for her. — Sunset Shimmer":](https://www.facebook.com/mylittlepony/videos/1463945533622879/
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Her meeting Starlight, was motivated by need to still have contact with Twilight. And "Forgotten Friendship"/"A Friendship to Remember" further explores the bond of Sunset and pony Twilight.
And to be clear, I did **not** use in my previous comment the "aAppeal" to majPopularity" opiarguemenions"t, as I didn't claim Sunset being more popular, automatically makes her a better character (It was another commenter). Heck, I wrote both are good characters, and objected to hate towards Starlight in another comment here. And seeing you write about "matters of taste", can't you also see your own opinion about Sunset is osubjective? And that yes, you can like Starlight much more, but that doesn't mean you **have** to be essentially a hater of Sunset
So sorry Supes, to me you come as an example of"[You are What You Hate":](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouAreWhatYouHate) / "[He who fights the monsters":](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeWhoFightsMonsters) , only that you use towards Sunset the same fallacious logic, haters of Starlight use.
And if anything, you are making the problem worse...as you put fans of Starlight in a **bad** light with your behavior...(which also kinda am, as I quite like her).
Especially as Background Pony #D365 noted, you are doing such stuff for **years** by now.
Jesh Supes, you're **really** exaggerating and being very subjective, just to portray Sunset as worse than Starlight. Some blatant fanboyism here.
And tell me **how** are you not trolling, seeing you essentially want to present Sunset as badly as possibly, by at best presenting very subjective opinions and borderline manipulating facts? At a Sunset-centric announcement? Sorry, but now you are playing dumb.
The same leaps of logic about you use with Sunset, to portray her as a "bland, boring character", could be used with Starlight and **are** used by her haters, and even not haters, them claiming Starlight is sociopath, who doesn't learn on her mistakes (ie basically had two times the same problems with Sunburst, making a lot of mistakes similar to past, showing she doesn't learn or really changed), and they that these aren't flaws that make her deeper, but marks of Jerk Sue. And also the same leaps of logic you use, could be used to claim Starlight is something of a stale character - as she commits constantly the same mistakes.
Heck, using your "logic" one could say Starlight also comes of as brainwashed, rather than convinced by " natural persuasion" - at one moment, she was so blinded by revenge, she at the very least didn't notice she ruined Equestria a multiple times, or like some of her critics state, she didn't care, at least until she caused the extinction of life, a scene latter she's basically all happy, and friends with people she worked **over and over** to ruin.
(note: not something I believe, just using similar leaps of logic as you, which is ironically the same thing Starlight's haters do).
And really, "Sunset allays being a dick" from comics is non canon for a LOOONG time now since Rainbow Rocks (and most IDW comics are declared un-canon, with some exceptions like Legends of Magic). (And I mean, in the prequel comic Moonndancer looks completely different, Mooondancer, Lyra, Colgate, Lemon Heart and Twinkle Shine were shown as also much older than Twilight while in the cartoon they are exactly Twilight's age) .Sunset stated in Rainbow Rocks she had doubts all the time about what she was doing, or her words:
"Deep down, I guess I knew I was making a big mistake, and I wanted to still have a way to reach out to her (Celestia)."
Even latter comics, if non canon, shown Sunset as being very lonely, which was a reason for her descent to evil:
>>763853t
>>763854t
>>763855t
And "A Friendship to Remember"/"Forgotten Friendship" further develops this characterisation, showing Sunset
Not to mention, the comic even contradicted stuff in the first Equestria Girls movie - Celestia describes Sunset's departure visibly differently, Sunset in the comic is in some ways **more** mean spirited than in the movie, and Sunset words at the end tell she was motivated by lack of real bonds with others:
"But... But all I've ever done since being here is drive everyone apart. **I don't know the first thing about friendship**."
In other words, the writer of the prequel comic, screwed up.
And the writing with Sunset **does** pay of - in the (canon) Legend of Magic, Celestia was shown to being youth similar to Sunset for example, and in Forgotten Friendship, the plot is caused by Sunset's pre-redeemption behavior,
Twilight forgiving Starlight so easily, and accepting her as a student, was VERY probably because of her experiences with Sunset.
And Sunset's bond with pony Twilight is VERY important, and has impact – she yelled at Sci-Twi, as she expected her to have pony Twilight's wisdom, and behave like her. Latter, she also became so close to Sci-Twi, in part due to her bond to pony Twilight, as she stated on Facebook (in an official statement by Hasbro):
"
[My friend Twilight Sparkle was there for me, and now it’s my turn to be there for her. — Sunset Shimmer
Her meeting Starlight, was motivated by need to still have contact with Twilight. And "Forgotten Friendship"/"A Friendship to Remember" further explores the bond of Sunset and pony Twilight.
And to be clear, I did **not** use in my previous comment the "
So sorry Supes, to me you come as an example of
And if anything, you are making the problem worse...as you put fans of Starlight in a **bad** light with your behavior...(which also kinda am, as I quite like her).
Especially as Background Pony #D365 noted, you are doing such stuff for **years** by now.