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Ugh.. I don't even know, what to start with.
 
That "illegal confiscation" calles expropriation of kulaks (I do not deny the fact that the innocent people suffered). There were too poor and too rich peasants. Collectivization was a progressive politic, because socialist state, unfortunately, can't give all peasants their own instruments and technics for their part of land. But if peasants would be in collectives, than it would be possible.


 
Yes, centralized war comminism was a disaster for citizens, so nep was nessesary. I'm sure, you know how big your country is, and imagine how hard it was to rule economy from the centre.. during the terrible civil war.


 
«...these are not necessary conditions in order to carry out industrialization in the 20th century» – I dont know what you tried to say.


 
«Nicolaus II started eradication of illiteracy». He was one of the worst monarchs in Russian history. I don't know, how would he raise literacy rates to >90% of population, when he couldn't even carry out liberal reforms to prevent at least one of revolutions.


 
So you claim that Soviet education system was recognized as the best of its time just because of old professors from Russian empire? That's something new.
 
Well, there was lots of reasons why USSR collapsed. And surly not because there was no empire's professors. Even in 2000-s Russia still has a great scientists. I hope, you don't want to offend your own country.


 
So, you may call it socialism or state capitalism – I don't care. As I know, even communists have argue about it.


 
And one moment – I'm not communist So you don't have to dump on me all your hatred of everything connected with Soviet thematic.
 
I just hate that cheap and insolent western propaganda, which shows USSR as "empire of evil". Cold War ended, but this shit never stops.
 
Great example: the White House congratulated USA and UK on V-Day this year.. Not even mentioned the country, which fought with 2/3 of all German forces on its territory and actually destroyed the Third Reich. It becomes obvious, that after collapse of USSR they want to dwipestr oyut it's history with all great moments.

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Ugh.. I don't even know, what to start with.
That "illegal confiscation" calles expropriation of kulaks (I do not deny the fact that the innocent people suffered). There were too poor and too rich peasants. Collectivization was a progressive politic, because socialist state, unfortunately, can't give all peasants their own instruments and technics for their part of land. But if peasants would be in collectives, than it would be possible.

Yes, centralized war comminism was a disaster for citizens, so nep was nessesary. I'm sure, you know how big your country is, and imagine how hard it was to rule economy from the centre.. during the terrible civil war.

«...these are not necessary conditions in order to carry out industrialization in the 20th century» – I dont know what you tried to say.

«Nicolaus II started eradication of illiteracy». He was one of the worst monarchs in Russian history. I don't know, how would he raise literacy rates to >90% of population, when he couldn't even carry out liberal reforms to prevent at least one of revolutions.

So you claim that Soviet education system was recognized as the best of its time just because of old professors from Russian empire? That's something new.
Well, there was lots of reasons why USSR collapsed. And surly not because there was no empire's professors. Even in 2000-s Russia still has a great scientists. I hope, you don't want to offend your own country.

So, you may call it socialism or state capitalism – I don't care. As I know, even communists have argue about it.

And one moment – I'm not communist So you don't have to dump on me all your hatred of everything connected with Soviet thematic.
I just hate that cheap and insolent western propaganda, which shows USSR as "empire of evil". Cold War ended, but this shit never stops.
Great example: the White House congratulated USA and UK on V-Day this year.. Not even mentioned the country, which fought with 2/3 of all German forces on its territory and actually destroyed the Third Reich. It becomes obvious, that after collapse of USSR they want to destroy it's history with all great moments.

"@Atlas_66":/images/2339344#comment_9012601
Ugh.. I don't even know, what to start with.
That "illegal confiscation" calles expropriation of kulaks (I do not deny the fact that the innocent people suffered). There were too poor and too rich peasants. Collectivization was a progressive politic, because socialist state, unfortunately, can't give all peasants their own instruments and technics for their part of land. But if peasants would be in collectives, than it would be possible.

Yes, centralized war comminism was a disaster for citizens, so nep was nessesary. I'm sure, you know how big your country is, and imagine how hard it was to rule economy from the centre.. during the terrible civil war.

«...these are not necessary conditions in order to carry out industrialization in the 20th century» – I dont know what you tried to say.

«Nicolaus II started eradication of illiteracy». He was one of the worst monarchs in Russian history. I don't know, how would he raise literacy rates to >90% of population, when he couldn't even carry out liberal reforms to prevent at least one of revolutions.

So you claim that Soviet education system was recognized as the best of its time just because of old professors from Russian empire? That's something new.
Well, there was lots of reasons why USSR collapsed. And surly not because there was no empire's professors. Even in 2000-s Russia still has a great scientists. I hope, you don't want to offend your own country.

So, you may call it socialism or state capitalism – I don't care. As I know, even communists have argue about it.

And one moment – I'm not communist So you don't have to dump on me all your hatred of everything connected with Soviet thematic.
I just hate that cheap and insolent western propaganda, which shows USSR as "empire of evil". Cold War ended, but this shit never stops.
Great example: the White House congratulated USA and UK on V-Day this year.. Not even mentioned the country, which fought with 2/3 of all German forces and actually destroyed the Third Reich. It becomes obvious, that after collapse of USSR they want to destroy it's history with all great moments.

"@Atlas_66":/images/2339344#comment_9012601
Ugh.. I don't even know, what to start with.
That "illegal confiscation" calles expropriation of kulaks (I do not deny the fact that the innocent people suffered). There were too poor and too rich peasants. Collectivization was a progressive politic, because socialist state, unfortunately, can't give all peasants their own instruments and technics for their part of land. But if peasants would be in collectives, than it would be possible.

Yes, centralized war comminism was a disaster for citizens, so nep was nessesary. I'm sure, you know how big your country is, and imagine how hard it was to rule economy from the centre.. during the terrible civil war.

«...these are not necessary conditions in order to carry out industrialization in the 20th century» – I dont know what you tried to say.

«Nicolaus II started eradication of illiteracy». He was one of the worst monarchs in Russian history. I don't know, how would he raise literacy rates to >90% of population, when he couldn't even carry out liberal reforms to prevent at least one of revolutions.

So you claim that Soviet education system was recognized as the best of its time just because of old professors from Russian empire? That's something new.
Well, there was lots of reasons why USSR collapsed. And surly not because there was no empire's professors. Even in 2000-s Russia still has a great scientists. I hope, you don't want to offend your own country.

So, you may call it socialism or state capitalism – I don't care. As I know, even communists have argue about it.

And one moment – I'm not communist So you don't have to dump on me all your hatred of everything connected with Soviet thematic.
I just hate that cheap and insolent western propaganda, which shows USSR as "empire of evil". Cold War ended, but this shit never stops.
Great example: the White House congratulated USA and UK on V-Day this year.. SNot even mentioned the country, which actually destroyed the Third Reich. It becomes obvious, that after collapse of USSR they want to destroy it's history with all great moments.

"@Atlas_66":/images/2339344#comment_9012601
Ugh.. I don't even know, what to start with.
That "illegal confiscation" calles expropriation of kulaks (I do not deny the fact that the innocent people suffered). There were too poor and too rich peasants. Collectivization was a progressive politic, because socialist state l, unfortunately, can't give all peasants their own instruments and technics for their part of land. But if peasants would be in collectives, than it would be possible.

Yes, centralized war comminism was a disaster for citizens, so nep was nessesary. I'm sure, you know how big your country is, and imagine how hard it was to rule economy from the centre.. during the terrible civil war.

«...these are not necessary conditions in order to carry out industrialization in the 20th century» – I dont know what you tried to say.

«Nicolaus II started eradication of illiteracy». He was one of the worst monarchs in Russian history. I don't know, how would he raise literacy rates to >90% of population, when he couldn't even carry out liberal reforms to prevent at least one of revolutions.

So you claim that Soviet education system was recognized as the best of its time just because of old professors from Russian empire? That's something new.
Well, there was lots of reasons why USSR collapsed. And surly not because there was no empire's professors. Even in 2000-s Russia still has a great scientists. I hope, you don't want to offend your own country.

So, you may call it socialism or state capitalism – I don't care. As I know, even communists have argue about it.

And one moment – I'm not communist So you don't have to dump on me all your hatred of everything connected with Soviet thematic.
I just hate that cheap and insolent western propaganda, which shows USSR as "empire of evil". Cold War ended, but this shit never stops.
Great example: the White House congratulated USA and UK on V-Day this.. So, it becomes obvious, that after collapse of USSR they want to destroy it's history with all great moments.