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Was it the movie we wanted? No.
Was it worth cutting Season 3 in half? That’s debatable.
>Or someone could do a fanfic of a EqG MALE human who was a former student of Canterlot, who went through the portal into Equestria and lived there as a pony for years before briefly going back into the human world to “retrieve” something.
A reverse Sunset Shimmer.
@Background Human
Like I said. There should e a pony who was a really actually from the human world, but ended up living in Equestria for some time after he “disappeared” from the human realm. Comes back to the human world briefly, sent on a espionage mission, with a team, to acquire military technology from the US intelligence back to their superiors in a faraway nation in the Pony World, so they could build magic-infused weapons they could use to conquer Equestria and the Human World beyond the portal.
Why would the US want to do that? I mean for one, I don’t think anything bigger than foot soldiers could fit in the mirror going in one at a time. It’d be much more beneficial for both worlds to just open relationships and trade, but that’s probably not practical either given the whole mirror thing.
Besides, if the US seriously had an interest in conquering Equestria, they wouldn’t just resort to brute force. What do you think the CIA is for? Hell, European colonial powers relied just as much on things like diplomacy and economic pressure as they did military force to build their empires, and that’s what the US would do if it wanted to make Equestria the 51st state.
BROTHERHOOD IS THE ONLY TRUE ANIME!
But the Equestrians would have just as much chance of acquiring American military technology. Incidentally, Marines with magic wands versus royal guards with cruise missiles would be just about the coolest thing ever.
Yup.
Oh, you mean completely non-canon?
Unless the US manage to somehow aquire magic during the invasion.
Probably end up like Conqueror of Shambala.
Probably wouldn’t go to well. A supply line would be utterly impossible to maintain, and Celestia could just teleport the mirror into the ocean.
Besides, it’s not like Equestria has any oil.
Yeah, assuming they’ll believe them. Then again, if many made the same claim…
What if the US decides to invade Equestria?
In Sunset’s eyes, she did. When Twilight came along, Sunset was no longer Celestia’s student, and had nowhere else to go due to being an orphan, likely due to a bizarre flash photography accident.
The military’s going to get called into that High School eventually. Hundreds of students witnessed an undeniably supernatural event, and even if it was somehow not captured on camera (in this day and age? Not likely) there’s enough structural damage to get the local police interrogating the kids, and most of them will probably spill the beans.
Sunset’s going to make a lot of friends in Guantanamo Bay.
Celestia never really actually abandoned her. She was hoping that Sunset would return to seek her guidance. Celestia and Luna seem to know what lies beyond the mirror. I suspect they ventured through themselves, but don’t talk about it much, for obvious reasons.
They should do a segment where the US Government decides to send a team through the portal to explore the place.
Or someone could do a fanfic of a EqG MALE human who was a former student of Canterlot, who went through the portal into Equestria and lived there as a pony for years before briefly going back into the human world to “retrieve” something.
A reverse Sunset Shimmer.
From what I’m looking at, though, Celestia seems completely oblivious to what she’s done. Rather than go in person to break the bad news, or better yet have two students, she drops Sunset, an Orphan with nowhere to go, from the program to help her get better at what she’s good at. And this seems to happen a lot to her.
Yeah, I’d imagine she went though a lot in her life. Much that may be to grimdark to be even mentioned in a movie designed for little girls.
Celestia does understand her magic talent, she is shown to still care about her. She’s just misguided. Frustration can bloom into all out malice.
I do. She could have legitimately been an amazing villain, who’s defeat could end up being inconclusive.
This is implying any of us care enough about her to make a backstory.
Dude, that’s not the issue. With creatures like Chrysalis, Sombra or Nightmare Moon, they don’t need a reason to be evil. They just are. But with Sunset, they had the chance to fully flesh out a new character that could have been a plausible Shadow Archetype to Twilight, but instead, they just go, Oh, she was Celestia’s Student, but she’s inexplicably evil now. It is just a waste of a potentially great villain that would stay a villain, because in real life, pretty words don’t heal emotional trauma.
That’s what I tried to say.
Celestia says outright that she’d only taken on Sunset as a student a short while before Twilight. Why didn’t they expand on that? I mean, seriously, it’s not that hard to create a good backstory. You could start with Sunset being an Orphan that showed great promise with magic before she even got her cutie mark. Hearing about her skill, Celestia sends to have her take the entrance exam, and Sunset passes with flying colours. Everything’s fine and dandy until Celestia comes up to her one day with bad news: She is no longer the student, and has been dropped from the program to make way for one ‘Twilight Sparkle’. Better yet, have it be some random secretary. So then, in a fit of rage over her betrayal, Sunset vows revenge against Celestia for rising the hopes of a little filly and dashing them into a thousand pieces. Fleeing Equestria through a magic portal that only opens once every now and again, Sunset is forced to watch from afar as Twilight Sparkle is given on a silver platter everything Sunset worked so hard to achieve yet never got.
Boom, Theaters around the world are flooded.
What really kills Sunset for me is the fact that she’s Celestia renegade student, yet absolutely nothing is made of this! Take that bit of backstory out of the movie, and does anything change? So much more could have been done with this idea, but in the end it just makes Sunset more of a disappointment, and it makes Celestia look like a total dumbass for somehow creating this utterly two dimensional bitch.
Aye. It would have been forgivable if the ending wasn’t so arse-backwards. Sunset was shown to be completely evil, according to Twilight’s point of view, so Twilight forgiving her is kind of stupid. Hell, They even wasted a perfectly good villain. Rather than give her an actual motive for being evil, they just make her want to TAKE OVER THE WORLD, with no real build up or reasoning. Hell, they could have used Sunset as a way to show that Celestia’s memory isn’t what it used to be, and that Sunset left after Celestia got a new student, instead of making Sunset just plain evil from the start.
The movie was bad throughout but nothing really stood out till the end…Oh that fucking end…Never have I seen such a more retarded ending to any film.
@Ichijoe
I haven’t seen it yet, but my impression is that it’s more a reworking of the pilot episodes, not a straight remake, as the other five Elements of Harmony were not friends with each other when Twilight met them in EqG. While the overarching plot was apparently similar, it differed quite a bit in details and execution.