I can see a bit of her hair, guess she’s gonna get stoned.

Wait. I just noticed. Her Hijab has stars and moons on it. OH OH! So you’re one of them too, Twilight! Even my own faithful student loves my sister more than me!
 
runs away sobbing

@Isazel  
I’m not even defending Christianity, I just think it’s a ridiculous comparison.
 
All those things you listed as crimes of Christianity are frowned upon by 99.9% of society.
 
Many of the crimes of Islam are expected and some even cherished in other cultures.

@Cayne  
If your going to make statements about Christianity’s supposed moral superiority over wicked Islam then you can be assured that yes, history matters, it always applies, its always relevant.
 
You can’t make any statement and expect people to take it seriously if your ignoring the history and context behind the things your talking about.
 
But if you want to talk about today: Then lets compare current christian and Islam crimes, like as of 2000.
 
Current Christian crimes: Raping children, concealing evidence of rapes, protecting pedophile priests, willfully exposing vulnerable children to pedophile priests, ect.
 
Current Islam crimes: Killing gays, killing deviant woman, starting inter-ethic wars, ect.
 
See what I’m getting at here? There is no such thing as a morally superior religion, all religions have done terrible things in the name of god.

@Isazel  
History is history and that can’t be changed. I’m talking about now. The time which matters.

@Cayne  
Your forgetting about 3000 years of Christian history here, Christians not only killed gay people, the Catholic Church attempted to kill or enslave just about everyone they encountered.
 
Heres a list of wholesome pious activities Christians have committed over the years:  
executing heretics (non-Christians)  
killing suspected deviants (whores, gays, ect.)  
religious genocide  
ethnic cleansing  
torture  
indefinite imprisonment  
stoning, beheading  
raping children
 
The list goes on and on, every major religion has committed atrocity over its history, there’s is no such thing as a morally superior religion.
 
Everything the Muslims are doing today, the Christians did have done far, far worse and on a larger, more methodical scale.

@Cayne
 
You’ve been acting like Islam as a whole is bad because of the way various governments have used it as a way to enforce unjust laws.
 
This all started because you said that religious bigotry only comes from religion, which is entirely untrue given just how many people I’ve seen act like religion itself is some kind of delusion.

@Zennistrad  
Strange. I thought judging religions in the actions done in its name WAS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS DOING.

@Cayne
 
Religion itself shouldn’t be criticized, hurtful actions that are taken in the name of religion should. Whether religion is good or bad is entirely up to the people who follow it, there are good people of all religions and bad people of all religions. It’s not and will never be as black and white as you make it out to be.

@Zennistrad  
In other words. Religion itself is uncriticizable.

@Cayne
 
Again, you seem to be under the impression that the actions taken by a government in the name of Islam means that Islam itself is bad.
 
How many times do you have to be told that a government that endorses a religion is not the same as the religion itself?

You’re about to find out! But first you have to stand up to the evil night goddess that wants to commit planetary genocide.
 
GOOD LUCK!

@Zennistrad  
The difference with Christianity and Islam is of course being that while Christianity complains a lot about gay people, ISLAM ACTUALLY EXECUTES GAY PEOPLE

@Cayne
 
The backlash against Scientology shouldn’t have been about the religion itself, but about the policies implemented by the church.
 
You seem to be under the impression that wrongful action taken under the name of religion somehow justifies being against religion itself.
 
Guess what: there are plenty of people who follow religion who don’t agree with religious fanatacism. There are a good deal of Christians today who have no problem with gays despite the Bible saying men who sleep with other men should be put do death.
 
Judging an entire religion based on the actions of its most extreme is bigotry. It’d be like being afraid of black people because black people are convicted of crimes more often, despite the vast majority of black people no being criminals.

Tell me honestly. The backlash against Scientology a few years back, was that also bigotry? And should it have happened?

@Zennistrad  
I wonder why we try so hard to separate church and state, when any Religious law will just be arbitrarily separated from it’s Religious source.

@Cayne
 
Sharia Law and Islam are not the same thing. Islam is a religion. That itself is harmless. Sharia Law is law that enforces religious belief, which is not the same as religion.
 
I mean, what, are you going to argue that Christianity existing means that it’s impossible to be Christian without being forced into a Christian theocratic state? Does Buddhism existing mean that it’s impossible to be Buddhist without being forced to live in a Buddhist theocratic state? Does Judaism existing mean it’s impossible to be Jewish without being forced into a Jewish theocratic state?
 
You seem to be under the idea that a religion by itself is a theocracy, and that makes it okay to hate a religion.

But I’m sure you’ll argue that even though the laws are Religious and practiced in society that doesn’t make the political or some other mind bogglingly stupid argument.

@Zennistrad  
Holy shit. Are you seriously so fucking stupid that you have no idea what Sharia law is? Good fucking grief.

@Cayne
 
Uh, what you just linked to isn’t Islam, it’s a political movement based off of the idea that Islam should guide the state.
 
Are you seriously stupid enough to think that a political movement based on religion is the exact same thing as the religion itself?

@Zennistrad  
Apparently you know jack squat about islam

@Cayne
 
Yes. I’m actually friends with a Muslim, and he is probably one of the nicest people I’ve ever met. Being a Muslim does not inherently make someone bad, and to say otherwise is pure bigotry.

@Zennistrad  
How is it not? Do you think Islam is separate from the state?

@Cayne
 
How is religion in any way a “radical political movement?” Do a few extremists motivated by supposed religious belief somehow define the attitudes of billions of people?

@Zennistrad  
Next you’ll tell me acting like assholes towards against a radical political movement is bigotry too.