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True enough.
@Starswirl
Exactly.
I’m not actually disagreeing with you that it’s strange how the ponies are sometimes portrayed as going to her for some other problem. Like this comic, actually! If I were a Ponyville doctor, I’d feel kind of insulted right about now.
Not quite; they also assume she has knowledge of the Everfree, which is understandable considering she manages to live there in peace. Strange creatures like the parasprite often do come from that place, so she’s a good source for information.
In Twilight’s case, I can’t think of too many instances where we saw ponies go to her for advice, although there must have been a few that simply escape my memory at the moment.
At any rate, asking her for help with certain things makes sense because the extent of her knowledgeability is pretty well-established. Everyone knows she’s studied unicorn magic, Equestrian history, a certain degree of life sciences, etc. All we know about Zecora is that she likes talking in rhymes and riddles, and she knows how to make potions. Beyond that, everyone just superstitiously assumes she has mystical Yoda-like insight, which so far is an erroneous conclusion at best.
About that poison joke thing: Yes, Twilight could have researched that info on her own. She had the right sources.
Twilight herself is a pony others go to when they have to deal with mystical questions however, let’s not forget.
Really, being as good a source as the genius sorceress living in a library isn’t exactly bad rep.
So it’s partly Zecora’s responsibility if someone takes her stuff without her permission, but it’s wholly my responsibility if I take your assertions at face value. Yeah, I’m done here.
Picking on my wording? I always use forceful language in debates, so don’t get too caught up in trying to guess what my personal feelings on a character are. That’s no intelligent argument, it’s just abusive ad hominem.
And what, you think Zecora’s info was actually useful in any way in Secret of My Excess? The problem basically resolved itself, so her exposition was in essence a waste of time. We’re no closer after all that to understanding how dragons really mature in the show, largely because Zecora’s explanation doesn’t account for why Spike is so different from all the other dragons, which is particularly noticeable in Dragon Quest.
In Cutie Pox, it was partially her responsibility because it was her stuff. If someone steals your car and runs somebody else over with it, it’s not exactly your fault, but like it or not you’re going to be involved in the aftermath.
@Miss Shy
Don’t be ridiculous. Ponyville was in a state of crisis. There was hardly time for vague rhymes about who knows what which may or may not lead to an actual solution. I would even go so far as to say that Zecora didn’t have an answer for anything at all in that scenario. She promised to help Twilight improve her magic, but she totally failed at that. Probably because she’s not a unicorn, so how the hay could she expect to teach one? Then she mutters something about “the power of the six”, and Twilight hears what she wants to hear, making up her own interpretation for what amounts to mystical gibberish.
Saying that she’s been useless in her every appearance, and describing what she’s said as “mumbo jumbo”, “nonsense”, and “pitifully limited”, doesn’t exactly indicate any fondness for the character.
That’s an awful lot to assume.
“Partly responsible”? What, was she supposed to suspect that her friend was going to take something without asking? As for “Magic Duel”, that “mumbo jumbo” was immediately understood by Twilight, so it seems to have done the trick. Actually, this argument seems to have gone off the original track of your assertion that the ponies have no reason to to think “Zecora should know anything about anything”; in fact, I’d say it’s been established that they have more than sufficient reason to think she’s capable of helping them.
But by this point I think it’s also been well-established that you hate Zecora and are incapable of seeing her as anything but useless and a nuisance.
If you tell the student the answer, they don’t learn anything.
In Cutie Pox, Zecora was partially responsible (in a way) for what happened, so her being part of the solution as well was natural enough.
As for Magic Duel, all she did was babble some cryptic mumbo jumbo, and Twilight interpreted her nonsense in a way that suited Twilight’s need. If Zecora was going to teach Twilight how to pull off illusions, you’d think she would have just said so right from the beginning.
OK, I’d forgotten about that, but the others still stand.
“Even with the poison joke, they could have discovered the remedy they needed in a book they already had.”
That’s an assumption with zero evidence to back it up (or disprove it, for that matter).
And remember “The Cutie Pox”?
As for “Magic Duel”, she was the one who clued in Twilight on how to beat Trixie.
Parasprites? She didn’t help with that at all, and her information about Spike was pitifully limited and revealed practically nothing that observation couldn’t have done.
She’s been relied on way too much, all things considered. Even with the poison joke, they could have discovered the remedy they needed in a book they already had.
The parasprites, Spike’s growth, and that potion knowledge makes or breaks the plots of several episodes.
She’s almost like Town Doctor levels of relied on.
Fluttershy is at least as sane as any of the others. More so at times.
And about what has Zecora really been explicitly correct, other than potion-related things? All she did was talk nonsense in Magic Duel.
She’s been right about weird things before.
And Shy, what have you ever had that you could be losing now?