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I’m always a little mean, just don’t take it too seriously lel. I’m just learning to draw too, so i totally know how it feels!
I love the photo, both of them. And the new one is fantastic. I love the shading on the body, and the hair could maybe use a little more shadow detail. As for the ears everyone is talking about, I do agree it could use maybe a small line to show that it’s folded since people here are easily confused. Thank you for trying your best, don’t let background pony or anyone mean get to ya, we all start out somewhere.
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All I’m saying is that just because something takes a long time doesn’t automatically make it good.
And I don’t hate everything, I explicitly said the kind of things I like. I just don’t like anything that guy linked.
Time very much is a factor.
An experienced artist could spent 10 seconds on a drawing, and it’d likely be very basic, debatably “shit”, but if they spent an hour on a pic then it could be significantly good quality, and then they could spend an extra hour refining details, making it even higher quality. here’s an example of work/time ratio
of course if someone isn’t an artist and/or have no idea what they are doing, no matter how much time they spend on it, it’ll only be as good as their knowledge/experience, which at the time would be preeeetty low.
In both cases however, regardless of skill, the time/quality graph is inverse logarithmic, meaning the quality improvement will get smaller and smaller while time remains linear:
the experience varies of course, a newbie artist may not go anywhere, but if someone has some idea of what they are doing, then over time they may be able to gradually improve quality the longer they work on it, so it’d have a more gradual incline and still level out at some point, just later than usual.
edit: this does not account for the trial and error that artists go through, as some artists may spend so long working on something that during that time they actually improve, meaning they would still able to fix errors and improve it further, which is kind of what you see when artists redo old drawings, or semi-redo, like using the same original sketch or whatever and just showing their colouring improvements.
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Time isn’t a factor in if something’s good or not. I’m no good at drawing, and if I spent days drawing something, it would still be shit at the end. It wouldn’t suddenly be skillful just because it took a while.
yes, art is subjective, and you apparently hate everything, much like how a troll hates everything. Can you blame them for making the connection?
@Background Pony #845D
The changes are bad because they don’t match the original style, trying to apply “realistic” rendering to a very cartoonish style makes them look odd. it has nothing to do with “looking more like the show style makes it better”
The colouring of lines and the personal stylistic variations like eyes being closer together are fine, but trying to apply smooth 3d-esque shading to something very cartoon-shaped doesn’t work, mostly because realistic shading is hard to get right on something 2D that doesn’t make physical sense(and even more so without much understanding of light to begin with).
Civilisedchangeling, Cell shading would be preferable when it’s still so cartoony, I recommend doing so until you - if you ever choose to that is - learn more about lighting 3d shapes and make your style more 3d/realistic.
The thing with the ears is a bit odd yes, since there’s no separation between head and ear, so they just look like freaky balls of fluff on the sides of the head, the fix for that would be better defining where the head ends and the ear begins, and the inner ear from the outer ear.
So you don’t see skill in drawings that took days to make, but you do in vector art that is made in minutes?…
And I disagree. I don’t see any skill in bad drawings like that.
I never said that how good they are is objective, I said that how well they were drawn is.
The pictures themselves indicate a great deal of artistic skill, and are thus objectively well drawn.
There is nothing objective about it. Art is subjective by nature.
Well then you just have terrible taste. Those pictures are all objectively very well drawn, and appeal to the majority of people with sight.
Also, you might want to tone down on the hostility a bit. It won’t get you anywhere except into trouble.
The style is just more appealing to me.
The newer one, Even thou it has all those improvements, they’re not moderated.
The shading on the body are great, But they don’t match the lack of detail on the hair and the eyes.
And honestly, with the simplistic style of the drawing, I’d say it doesn’t fit overall.
In the first one thou, Simple style+simple shading=more appeal, In my opinion.
And btw right colors and thinner lines don’t really count for improvements.
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And now it’s obvious you’re just baiting me. Well played, good sir, you had me going for a moment there.
Don’t feed the trolls.
Look at this shit.
@FuckedUpEditLOL
They’re folded.
Damn son, please draw better!
You’re just proving me right. Those look like shit.
So you’re saying this looks bad? Or this? Or this? Or this? Or this? Or… (I could go on, but I hope you get the idea of how definitively wrong you are by this point.)
If it doesn’t look like the show, it looks bad.
Closer to the show isn’t always a good thing.
What throws the new image off for me is that the eyes are too close together, and the ears are too fluffy. Other than that, I like the new one better.
Realistic and thinner lines are bad things. The old one looks closer to the show.
@Background Pony #845D
In what way is the older one better? The eyes are the right color and more realistic, there’s more detailed shading, the lines are thinner, there’s has more emotion, plus it’s fluffy.
Yeah, the older thing looks better.