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@Starswirl  
To be fair, nothing saying the death would be “recent”. She never even knew her birth family (being found in the woods and all). If she was found as an infant, then Celestia took her in at the age of 4 and then B.B.’s parents died 20 years later…
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@Background Pony #5C4E  
Now that’s a source of potential conflict.
 
“Nephew, here’s your new stepsister. Her parents died recently, so please make sure to be on your best behaviour with her.”  
(His parents die shortly after that)  
“Well, buck.”
Background Pony #0C2E
@Starswirl  
Actually, come to think of it, I can see a little bit of a problem. Either Blueblood’s parents are alive, in which case there’s another royal around who we’ve never seen or heard of, or they’re dead, in which case… Cadance would be twice orphaned. Which is pretty bleak. (Although actually it might not count as orphaning if they died while she was an adult, I guess?)
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I like to think he’s actually just secretly her son. Maybe Cadance too. They’re just her “niece and nephew” to the public so they don’t get any ideas about inheritance, or whatever. I think that angle has a lot of potential for story.
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@DragonWraith  
Well, now, since Celestia kept raising the moon along with her supposed talent of specifically raising the sun, that never made sense in the first place. I mean, it would’ve made for an interesting addition if she kept a council of Unicorns whose duty was raising the moon, who might then feel pushed away when Luna returned, but… nah. Let’s just have the Alicorns do it somehow.
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@PonyPon  
It’s that line that (in my opinion) really puts a damper on the fan theory that Celestia and Luna can only raise their respective satellites because it’s their special talent, rather than because they have massive amounts of unicorn magic.  
The fact that later writers keep downgrading how much unicorn magic the Sisters have access to is just another aspect of this whole inconsistent writing thing.
Background Pony #0C2E
@Amber  
[bq=”Amber”]@Ginger_Fig
some of the writers try to adhere to what Faust established,
I’m not letting Faust off the hook here, not by any means. She was Executive Producer…as Captain of the proverbial ship she was the one responsible making sure the core story and character relationships were solidly established. Sorry to say, she dropped the ball on that one.
I have to agree on that in part. Her and Rob Renzetti (who was the story editor, if I remember well) were mainly responsible for maintaining that. Season 1 and part of season 2 shows it.
The thing is that, from everything I’ve gathered on these years, they were actually quite strict when it came to most of the work. Faust on the different details about the characters and watch over the storyboards and Renzetti keeping watch of screenwriting staff. I guess their somewhat abrupt departure just left things complicated, but McCarthy should have been able to pick things up, but then Hasbro came in wanting to push Shining, Cadence and a few extra alicorns and she had to pretty much to roll with it. Who knows if that Bible was ever properly completed or who knows if the current screenwriting staff are still reading it. I know Keating Rogers did and other writers like Larson and even Morrow were brave enough to add some actual characterization to characters most of them wouldn’t touch, hell we know that even Jim nowadays tries to keep some things consistent with what was settled before, but then when I hear current writers like Josh Haber implying they don’t keep an eye to what was previously established, it makes me a bit worried.
Still, The Gauntlet of Fire and The Saddle Row Review have been enjoyable to watch, in my opinion. I’m looking forward to more from the writers of those episodes.
Side note; that avatar you’re using takes me back! I remember watching the US dub of that first run back in the early 1980’s. It was the first Japanese cartoon many of us ever saw.
I’m always glad to find another G-Force/Gatchaman fellow fan! Yeah, nostalgia was the reason I ended up using this as an avatar, heh.
I heard Faust designed Cadence (but as a unicorn, not an alicorn); She was involved in the early stages of the S2 episodes (screenwriting and stuff? Don’t recall) but didn’t see any of them through to completion except for Return of Harmony, if I remember rightly. This might explain why the S2 finale keeps calling Cadence a “unicorn”. (Either that or alicorns were originally classified as unicorns rather than as their own separate thing)
But yes, Cadence was probably still a Hasbro mandate, but pushed before Faust left, not after. Actually, one wonders if that pushing had a role in her leaving…
Amber

some of the writers try to adhere to what Faust established,
I’m not letting Faust off the hook here, not by any means. She was Executive Producer…as Captain of the proverbial ship she was the one responsible making sure the core story and character relationships were solidly established. Sorry to say, she dropped the ball on that one.
 
I have to agree on that in part. Her and Rob Renzetti (who was the story editor, if I remember well) were mainly responsible for maintaining that. Season 1 and part of season 2 shows it.
 
The thing is that, from everything I’ve gathered on these years, they were actually quite strict when it came to most of the work. Faust on the different details about the characters and watch over the storyboards and Renzetti keeping watch of screenwriting staff. I guess their somewhat abrupt departure just left things complicated, but McCarthy should have been able to pick things up, but then Hasbro came in wanting to push Shining, Cadence and a few extra alicorns and she had to pretty much to roll with it. Who knows if that Bible was ever properly completed or who knows if the current screenwriting staff are still reading it. I know Keating Rogers did and other writers like Larson and even Morrow were brave enough to add some actual characterization to characters most of them wouldn’t touch, hell we know that even Jim nowadays tries to keep some things consistent with what was settled before, but then when I hear current writers like Josh Haber implying they don’t keep an eye to what was previously established, it makes me a bit worried.
 
Still, The Gauntlet of Fire and The Saddle Row Review have been enjoyable to watch, in my opinion. I’m looking forward to more from the writers of those episodes.
 
 
@Ginger_Fig  
[bq=”Ginger_Fig”]@Amber
Side note; that avatar you’re using takes me back! I remember watching the US dub of that first run back in the early 1980’s. It was the first Japanese cartoon many of us ever saw.
I’m always glad to find another G-Force/Gatchaman fellow fan! Yeah, nostalgia was the reason I ended up using this as an avatar, heh.
Ginger_Fig
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some of the writers try to adhere to what Faust established,
I’m not letting Faust off the hook here, not by any means. She was Executive Producer…as Captain of the proverbial ship she was the one responsible making sure the core story and character relationships were solidly established. Sorry to say, she dropped the ball on that one.
 
Side note; that avatar you’re using takes me back! I remember watching the US dub of that first run back in the early 1980’s. It was the first Japanese cartoon many of us ever saw.
Background Pony #AA00
I’d honestly like to just see more pictures of prince blueblood chilling with his royal family like this rather then always looking like their about to fight.
Amber

@Background Pony #5C4E
@Starswirl
Oh, I’m not denying or arguing against anything the writer’s might have said in interviews…I just feel they foolishly painted themselves into a corner by not having their lore and relationships locked down before writing scripts. This is why I specifically worded my post “If I was writing an episode…”.
Look at other writers who have attracted massive, nitpicky fandoms: George Lucas, J.K. Rowling, Gene Roddenberry, the aforementioned J.R.R. Tolkein…all of them had reams of background information about their world and characters. Even if that stuff never makes it into the book/movie/tv show/whatever it exerts an influence on the finished product. You don’t have to pre-plan every detail but for pete’s sake, have your core story straight before you write it.
I don’t think anyone did that with MLP:FiM, and it shows. It’s just shoddy writing. Sure, nobody at Hasbro/DHX could have predicted that hundreds of thousands of grown men would start hyper-analyzing every line of their 22-minute toy commercials…but none of those other writers I mentioned knew they were going to be as successful when they started out either. If anything DHX deserves less slack because they had a budget and a production team when they started…as the legend goes Rowling had to write her first book in coffee shops because it was cheaper than heating her apartment all day and she still did a better job!
So, as for my opinion of the FiM writing team, I will live by the adage “If you can’t say something nice don’t say anything at all” and politely leave it at that.
Meaningless Rant mode: OFF
 
 
Thank you.
 
Seriously, thank you.
 
Is it really that impossible for them to have their core story/lore in check? so yeah, they thought this wouldn’t last that long, but they should have started by the end of 3rd season at least. This is pretty much my only criticism (putting Equestria Girls aside) about this series. We can see that some of the writers try to adhere to what Faust established, but then it get a bit frustrating when another writer comes in and…sort of writes above what the previous writers without even trying to delve a bit in the…should we call it inconsistent lore? Yes, this is a children’s show and a girl’s show at that, but still.
 
Like, what happened with Meriwether Williams and Peewee, say what you want but, that phoenix was set to be Spike’s pet, only to just swept it under the rug later by someone else.
 
I’m not saying every writer is like that, though.
 
@SpacePaladin
 
And this is literally my headcanon as well. If I remember well, the name of Platinum’s father is Bullion. King Bullion.
SpacePaladin
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Watcher of the Watchmen
My preferred headcanon for Blueblood’s relationship to Celestia and Luna is that the King of the Unicorns adopted them as his daughters to help smooth things out with disgruntled unicorn traditionalists, making them Princess Platinum’s adoptive sisters. Blueblood is her descendant.
 
I know about Faust’s explanation, but it came across as one of those joke explanations.
Ginger_Fig
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@Background Pony #5C4E  
Ay, don’t get me wrong…we’re all having our fun with this pony thing or we wouldn’t be here.  
I stopped watching the show years ago because the writing annoyed me (beginning with S1 E1), but if people still like the show I say more power to them. Enjoy…and don’t let some clown on the internet (me) ruin it for you.
Background Pony #0C2E
@Ginger_Fig  
I’m actually glad you have a realistic view of the writing, and aren’t like a lot of this fandom who seem to treat this show like it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread. That’s not to say I’m necessarily a negative nancy myself; It’s just that I can tell that their “fan glasses” are getting in the way of their objectivity, you know?
Ginger_Fig
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@Background Pony #5C4E  
@Starswirl  
Oh, I’m not denying or arguing against anything the writer’s might have said in interviews…I just feel they foolishly painted themselves into a corner by not having their lore and relationships locked down before writing scripts. This is why I specifically worded my post “If I was writing an episode…”.
 
Look at other writers who have attracted massive, nitpicky fandoms: George Lucas, J.K. Rowling, Gene Roddenberry, the aforementioned J.R.R. Tolkein…all of them had reams of background information about their world and characters. Even if that stuff never makes it into the book/movie/tv show/whatever it exerts an influence on the finished product. You don’t have to pre-plan every detail but for pete’s sake, have your core story straight before you write it.
 
I don’t think anyone did that with MLP:FiM, and it shows. It’s just shoddy writing. Sure, nobody at Hasbro/DHX could have predicted that hundreds of thousands of grown men would start hyper-analyzing every line of their 22-minute toy commercials…but none of those other writers I mentioned knew they were going to be as successful when they started out either. If anything DHX deserves less slack because they had a budget and a production team when they started…as the legend goes Rowling had to write her first book in coffee shops because it was cheaper than heating her apartment all day and she still did a better job!
 
So, as for my opinion of the FiM writing team, I will live by the adage “If you can’t say something nice don’t say anything at all” and politely leave it at that.
 
Meaningless Rant mode: OFF