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I commissioned this and had the master, but lost it due to life shit :(
You can never call the comics bad or good and still deserve to be listened to. There are a lot of good issues, and a lot of bad ones. They rarely seem to be average. And for some reason people here prefer to only remember the bad. I do my best to forget about the bad ones.
Reflections was one of the good issues, along with any other issues about Sombra. To see all his wasted potential be brought back and restored is a lovely thing. Though Reflections was itself a lot of wasted potential. I hope we get to revisit that world.
Well she did reflect on it at the end of the episode, but thanks to Spike and her own inexperience with reality, she completely missed the mark and made a conclusion that cheered her up but didn’t match what happened at all. I recall something similar happened to Twilight at the end of Trade Ya!…
“In No Second Prances, she simply gave Starlight her assignment without giving her a list or telling her how to do it.”
Considering it was still a managed, time constrained assignment based on the idea that Starlight was more of her project then friend and apprentice, I really don’t see a significant distinction between the two. Especially since the bush scene showed Twilight had no issue stomping on Starlight’s feelings to get her to see Celestia with a “safe” friend. She grew a little bit at the end of it, and NOT just because Trixie was the chosen friend.
“In A Hearth’s Warming Tail, she simply read Starlight a story and let her choose what to do for herself.”
That was definitely more of a step in the right direction, however the episode was played very odd. Starlight wasn’t miserable, sad or even sour during Hearts Warming Eve, or even have an issue with its morals, she simply didn’t see any enjoyment in the holiday itself, which was apparently enough to warrant a lesson. (We aren’t shown whether it was motivated by conformity or natural concern yet.) That alone isn’t too odd, but honestly the moral was weird as well.
Who said that Twilight didn’t reflect on what was said at the end of that episode? It seemed to have worked, though.
In No Second Prances, she simply gave Starlight her assignment without giving her a list or telling her how to do it. She did interfere later, but there were extenuating circumstances.
In A Hearth’s Warming Tail, she simply read Starlight a story and let her choose what to do for herself.
I do agree with you about the comics, though. Some really flesh out the characters and world in a way that meshes really well with the lore already established in the show.
Also, I thought one point of the Reflections arc was the revelation that there are many parallel worlds out there. The show and the comics don’t necessarily need to be from the same universe, but they can be similar enough that you can assume that certain topics and situations can be applied to both universes. Of course, the “Prime” universe’s (a.k.a. the show’s) lore should be considered the most important.
Each individual comic doesn’t need to be set in the same universe, either.
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Exactly.
@Background Pony #CF02
Thanks.
How mature pony twilight is hard to tell, because she’s treated like such a dainty flower that barely anyone gives her a dose of reality. At the end of the S6 premier, Spike convinced Twilight that her being entirely wrong on how to handle Starlight’s friendship-mending beyond initiating it, a plan that made things more awkward then they needed to be…. and that by Starlight figuring it out by herself, that was the same as taking a laid back route that Celestia did (sometimes) with Twilight and becoming friends with the other Mane 6….making Twilight think that what she did was a complete success and that she didn’t need to reflect at all.
That doesn’t sound very mature at all. Its really hard to see her progress outside a few rare, recent episodes in Season 5.
Also, the comics being possibly non-canon is easy for most comics, but harder for others, like the Rarity and Babs comic that has Rarity talking about one of her major character issues regarding her parents, and Babs Seed getting on the path that gets her her cutie mark in the show.
Celestia goes into detail that things only got serious about bonding with Sombra after Luna lost herself. In the first phase, it was Celestia and Starswirled finding out more about the mirror and the other dimensions, while Luna had become a recluse uninterested in anything in the time prior to finally snapping and becoming nightmare moon. Celestia goes and explains, in detail, that things got serious and almost desperate between her and Sombra AFTER nightmare Moon was banished, and that is was more out of loneliness then romance that they bonded, which eventually lead to overuse and Starswirled sealing it up.
Besides, if they never became close, Good Sombra’s world would of been destroyed by Evil Celestia. She and Alt Luna were decaying it and nobody alive had the power to replace them for the Sun and moon.
I’m not going trying to convince you of the interpretation, I’m reading you the actual situation.
@PonyPon
You’re disagreement isn’t a reply, its a stance without a stance.
How do I know your not lying and just trying to fit in within the Derpibooru IDW hate obsession crowd? There are a lot of bad comics, sure, but a lot of good and a lot of mixed. One can say the same about the show but in far greater and lasting magnitudes, however any lasting stuff from this arc would of been character growth from Celestia and Twilight….
At the end of the comic, Celestia is being more open and honest, Luna and Celestia are resolving their differences and acting more like normal sisters, and Twilight respects Celestia more but in less of a worshipping manor, and is now more introspective about what she wants for herself and less of a tool.
You’ve complained about these personality issues on this site not being addressed in the show constantly, yet the arc that gives a ton of that you won’t give an inch. You can imagine why your short answers sound only like half-truths.
My “indignant shrieks” are nothing compared to your “indignant shrills of no-explanation self-contradictions” in terms of being ineffectual.
@Tragiclady
I don’t remember saying all the comics are good. What are you, ten? Some of them are really bad, like that one, but a lot of them are really good and/or mixed and still interesting.
And it’s also interesting how the main complaint from fans about Sombra was that he had no personality or background, and then when the comics give him loads of both, they just complain more.
I agree with most of this, but the comics are to be freely interpreted as either canon or non-canon.
I do think Twilight has had a lot of character growth in the show, same with all the characters. They all seem more mature now, for the most part.
@Tragiclady
All a fever dream, because Luna can be sadistic sometimes.
@gisaaaaa
To be fair, she was a thousand years more foolish.
Love can make even smart people really stupid. If this was her first love, she could’ve been too caught up in the “high” of it all to truly think straight.
what gets me angry about that saga is that, even if I dislike Celestia, I can’t see she being so foolish too the point that she would fucked up both dimensions because of a “love”, and to let it go about her responsibilities with the kingdom and ignore her sister (and get a substitute in the other dimension). So yeah, that’s my point, and no matter what I won’t change it.
This also happened in the IDW Comics :D
I have nothing against Princess Celestia X King Sombra shipping. Just that there was a lot of really really dumb stuff in the comics as well. Such as night of the killer apples, which I don’t have a link to at the moment.
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I disagree with most of that.
And no amount of your indignant shrieks will stop that.
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@Tragiclady
@PonyPon
@Background Pony #73FA
@Malvolio
(insert whiny baby noises cause Derpibooru bronies pretend this is the Twilight Saga books)
Better to have a flawed but growing characterization then Zero at all like the show.
This comic managed to
-give Celestia some flawed but relatable backstory and personality,
-give both Twilight and Celestia more character growth then they’ve had in 6 seasons
-Have Celestia and Luna reconcile their differences.
If this was canon prior, and the aftermath after the storyline was done was growth in all these characters that would of made future plotlines a dozen times more relatable…I’m not seeing the downside at all.
You guys would rather trade relatable personality introspection and flaws and development for just not having a flawed relationship in Celestia’s past?
What the hell is wrong with you people!?
Some of it is good if you think of it as fanfiction.
I’m totally with you, here.