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Background Pony #1491
Chrysalis: “I may be a Changeling Queen but I’m not going to kill you! I’m going to stop you!”
Nightmare Star: (in Zamasu’s voice) “What makes you think stopping me will free your princess friend, insect!?”
Chrysalis: “I can’t free Celestia! But I know somepony who can! Flurry, now!”
Future Flurry Heart: blasts Nightmare Star with her magic
Nightmare Star: (in Zamasu’s voice) “Back for more, Flurry Heart, yet again!?”
Background Pony #A34A
@Amethyst_Crystal
But If it’s just her and celestia?
Considering a royal problem, I think she might know a way to defeat her.
And yes, I know I’m bumping a comment from 5 years ago, but I wanted to put in my two cents.
Background Pony #3695
@VermiIIion
@Darth Sonic
@Background Pony #507E
You guys are completely missing my point.
However…
@Background Pony #507E
They’re still right though, a nightmare star episode does not equal a Celestia episode. A nightmare star would be another Luna episode, again, because she’s dealt with this before and it would involve her sister so Luna once again would be the focus. It also wouldn’t make sense for Celestia to be corrupted like Luna did because she’s not dealing with the same problems Luna did, at the most she might feel her long life is cuasing problems but that’s hardly a reason to turn evil. So yeah I agree that getting a nightmare star episode BEFORE an actual Celestia episode would be awful.
Thank you! This is exactly what I meant.
Even though evil-Celestia would be cool,
it would be terrible to get before a regular-Celestia episode.
Terrible and stupid.
It would still not be an episode about Celestia’s character either,
it’d be some spell or alt dimension thing,
unless they play it out as something like ‘Celestia is the big bad of the whole series and tricking everypony ALL ALONG!!111’,
which would mean the writers have jumped the shark and landed on Nightmare’s moon,
and would have absolutely ruined an actually kind loving ruler character for no good reason at all,
unless being super dark and edgy is the best reason of all.
 
Well guess what big guy, Celestia got an episode for once AAAAAND….it was pretty crap…
 
 
So yeah, I’d be better off with the evil celestia now…
thps48
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Wallet After Summer Sale -

Young Leosword
@VermiIIion  
Jawohl, Cel Advice and All Bottled Up are the names of the two-part season premiere. What that means concerning how the two-parter will be structured is not yet clear, but it is apparent it will be unique in some manner to the other two-part premieres and finales.
 
Although, I’m sort of reminded of how S01E01: Mare in the Moon and S01E02: Elements of Harmony were later renammed Friendship is Magic Parts 1 & 2. I’m not yet convinced this is the same scenario, though. <w<
Amethyst_Crystal
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
Dream Come True! - Participated in the MLP 9th Anniversary Event
A Tale For The Ages - Celebrated MLP's 35th Anniversary and FiM's 8th Anniversary
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Goth Hippie Nerd Pony
@Amethyst_Crystal
One idea in mind would be giving Cel six episodes centered around friendship lessons for each of the Bearers
 
I really like this idea.  
Would be even better than the ‘let’s follow the map’ quests,  
it would feel like a more natural progression from friendship lessons of earlier seasons.  
Still prefer we don’t see Nightmare Star at all in show, given how little there is of normal Celestia.
thps48
Solar Supporter - Fought against the New Lunar Republic rebellion on the side of the Solar Deity (April Fools 2023).
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Wallet After Summer Sale -

Young Leosword
@Amethyst_Crystal  
True. One idea in mind would be giving Cel six episodes centered around friendship lessons for each of the Bearers, that’d set up a conflict with Star in the finale either with the usual McMuffins or through the use of a conduit like The Box and Map or both. Giving her a more sufficient spotlight before the appearence of Star proper.
 
A concurrent idea would involve Moon reemerging in the Premier, either from her takeover timeline from S05E26 or as a remnant consciousness inside Luna like that guy from Yu-Gi-Oh, then dissipating without a trace, putting the Mane Cast in a false sense of security before it’s revealed in the Finale Moon had transferred herself to Cel’s consciousness.
 
Ooh! and the time Cel had spent with the Bearers in the aforementioned potential six episode arc allows Star to learn of the Bearers’ weaknesses. Presumably, Rainbow Power should be sufficient to stop Star, after the Bearers discover Star’s existence, undo their inevitable incapacitation, and perhaps get a pep-talk from somepony important: Luna, Cadance, Cel’s spirit locked away someplace or inside Star like Peach inside The Shadow Queen. :j
Amethyst_Crystal
My Little Pony - 1992 Edition
Dream Come True! - Participated in the MLP 9th Anniversary Event
A Tale For The Ages - Celebrated MLP's 35th Anniversary and FiM's 8th Anniversary
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Goth Hippie Nerd Pony
@VermiIIion  
@Darth Sonic  
@Background Pony #507E  
You guys are completely missing my point.  
However…
 
@Pagan  
@Background Pony #507E
They’re still right though, a nightmare star episode does not equal a Celestia episode. A nightmare star would be another Luna episode, again, because she’s dealt with this before and it would involve her sister so Luna once again would be the focus. It also wouldn’t make sense for Celestia to be corrupted like Luna did because she’s not dealing with the same problems Luna did, at the most she might feel her long life is cuasing problems but that’s hardly a reason to turn evil. So yeah I agree that getting a nightmare star episode BEFORE an actual Celestia episode would be awful.
 
Thank you! This is exactly what I meant.  
Even though evil-Celestia would be cool,  
it would be terrible to get before a regular-Celestia episode.  
Terrible and stupid.
 
It would still not be an episode about Celestia’s character either,  
it’d be some spell or alt dimension thing,  
unless they play it out as something like ‘Celestia is the big bad of the whole series and tricking everypony ALL ALONG!!111’,  
which would mean the writers have jumped the shark and landed on Nightmare’s moon,  
and would have absolutely ruined an actually kind loving ruler character for no good reason at all,  
unless being super dark and edgy is the best reason of all.
Pagan

Gay Viking
@Background Pony #507E  
They’re still right though, a nightmare star episode does not equal a Celestia episode. A nightmare star would be another Luna episode, again, because she’s dealt with this before and it would involve her sister so Luna once again would be the focus. It also wouldn’t make sense for Celestia to be corrupted like Luna did because she’s not dealing with the same problems Luna did, at the most she might feel her long life is cuasing problems but that’s hardly a reason to turn evil. So yeah I agree that getting a nightmare star episode BEFORE an actual Celestia episode would be awful.
Background Pony #3695
@Amethyst_Crystal  
Yes, cause The God Emperor or Emperor Palpatine were never evil royal bastards despite the things he did in Warhammer and Star Wars…
 
Also, like Darth Sonic said, don’t speak for us.