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Hakirayleigh
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ℜ𝔞𝔯𝔦𝔱𝔶 𝔟𝔢𝔰𝔱 𝔭𝔬𝔫𝔶
@CronoM  
We’re not talking about agency, we talk about the remane5 had a behavior and cause main character and antagonist got better rewards despite they are “novice” to social constructivism.
 
I hope you better of your stomach. Gas may go up to your head at different stages, like now.
CronoM

@hakirayleigh  
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Wat.
 
And the other’s 5’s sense of agency is…not important?!?!?
 
I feel VERY uncomfortable talking to you further, cause your line of thinking is so archaic and revolting its making me sick to my stomach.
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ℜ𝔞𝔯𝔦𝔱𝔶 𝔟𝔢𝔰𝔱 𝔭𝔬𝔫𝔶
@CronoM  
It would ok if any pony or the human get a boyfriend, but the three caharacters with the poorest chances to get that, Flash Sentry has a weird tastes or writers didn’t consider like a real High-School is, like Rainbow Dash got a boyfriend by that the best sport woman or Rarity being the 2nd most popular girl besides Sunset with her threats.
CronoM

@hakirayleigh  
“Something I always mad with EG, is why a two ponies and a extreme asocial girl got boyfriends before 5 girls with “more common” high school routines.”
 
Well THAT’S an incredibly backwards way of thinking. Why would the 5 most self motivated and independent young heroes of the human and pony world NEED boyfriends? Unless you haven’t noticed, their interests are pretty set in stone even in the human world. Its fine if they never want to date.
 
Sunset only dated Flash to be popular.
 
And Twilight’s dependent nature makes her the most likely to desire intimacy. Even though EG1 was a stinking pile of crap compared to the rest, the logic behind it isn’t rocket science.
 
“But Sci-Twi is something I don’t care much, I’m barely ok with one Fluttershy.”  
I’m barely ok with one Fluttershy.
 
Well there’s your problem. If you are admittedly biased against Fluttershy’s existence, then anyone you allude to be similar to her is not going to be seen through fair eyes no matter how much you say the contrary. Which…isn’t even the case, you’ve openly stated how little you care about EG in general.
 
I get your subjective preferences, and that’s fine, but that’s not really an actual discussion is it?
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@CronoM  
Something I always mad with EG, is why a two ponies and a extreme asocial girl got boyfriends before 5 girls with “more common” high school routines. But if EG continue with her “Sailor Moon phase” Ill give a 2% chance. But Sci-Twi is something I don’t care much, I’m barely ok with one Fluttershy.
CronoM

@hakirayleigh  
Sorry but Ive never seen Sci Twi as Fluttershy 2.0. There is a difference between Sci Twi being socially awkward and Fluttershy being easily frightened. Once the fear block is gone, Fluttershy is very social and understanding to people. Sci Twi doesn’t fear being in the spotlight, but she doesn’t know how to. Pony Twilight is always socially awkward, but she has double edged confidence of being Celestia’s apprentice, which makes her more bold but also makes her often ignorant of other people’s feelings.
 
The EG show makes it clear that Sci Twi’s insecurities are not based on shyness, but uncertainty. However she stands on her own two feet and even though she isn’t an expert on social interaction AND the characters notice like shown in EG special 2, she actual tries her best one step at a time. She fully understands how much her friends mean to her because she wants to. She pursues all the interests Twilight has freely and still manages to keep her friends as the most important priority because friendship means so much to her.
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@CronoM
 
It has Sci-Twi like a Fluttershy 2.0, but with a love interest is not good besides I only like EG cause her designs and the r34. Besides, I’m interested at School plot, maybe with the pendants change a bit my mind and despite the remane5 has more power than their pony counter parts.
CronoM

@hakirayleigh  
I’d have to honestly disagree with that assessment. While overall show potential is still obviously in MLP:FiM’s favor, considering recent events in EG and MLP:FiM, 99% for the show is being a bit too generous for the show, and 1% if far too hateful to the EG show.
 
Only the aftermath of the season finale has given any sense of a progressing plot for a while now, now that the status quo has been changed and we have 6 ACTUAL TIME DISPLACED PLANESWALKER HEROES in the modern world 1000 years after their time period. The EG series for quite some time have had access to all 7 elements, further experimentation with their power, and that all seven have the closest power to whatever heavenly force guides the elements, as the power summoned from the 7 elements in full power together in Rainbow Rocks is the biggest harmony power shown in all MLP media.
 
After Tirek, the show has lulled quite a bit for basically 3 seasons in terms of show potential and big story potential. Show CONTENT is still in the Show’s favor obviously due to the multitude of characters and setting, but potential has been decreasing quite some time Chrysalis’ minions miraculously captures almost everybody? Every brainwashed changeling reform-transforms with the slightest doubt implanted. ||Pony of Shadow from an ancient time who’s NOT Sombra but some other asshole is released…but its not even Defcon 1(Tirek is taking over the entire world) or Defcon 2(Chrysalis is overthrowing Canterlot) in terms of danger. Twilight is not nearly as strong as Celestia or Luna, but with Twilight and Starlight they were able to push Stygian back. Had Celestia and Luna been their, they could of beat Stygian there.  
They even lowered the sense of danger by him not having him actually do anything, and pointing out he was basically a sitting duck, as there were only a few places he could recover a small portion of his strength. ||
 
As for your obviously biased anger to Sci-Twi(case in point >>>>>>>>>>>>>>), I couldn’t disagree more. Sci-Twi IS Twilight Sparkle just as much as Pony Twilight is, but at the same time they are completely different individuals due to nature vs nurture, especially when we consider how drastically Pony Twilight’s life is ruled by her nurture from Celestia and not her personal feelings. Amending Fences and the Cinematic Movie drove that point home about how her priorities are messed up compared to others. Sci Twi can pursue her own interests and pursue her friendships wholeheartedly, for example, Rainbow Dash bonding with Sci Twi easily over Daring Do despite their very different personalities. She also has issues that perfectly fill her overall character to be one of caution and well written issues instead of infinite good fortune.
 
Despite having a friendly personality, Twilight in general does not have much moral foundations as they reflected back in her Canterlot days, but without the pride of being Celestia’s main student, its not an unassailable obstacle for Sci Twi. Still, her pursuit of knowledge, the pressure of others, and her curious nature had her open the amulet and set her down a Faustian path that is a part of her forever, but was saved from the main part by Daydream Shimmer, and still has the deal with the psychological issues and how she wants to rebuild herself with her friends help. They’ve made the most out of Twilight’s character as Sci Twi and she still has a lot of potential to give.
 
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@Josh103  
Hmm, you may be right about that. Many of us see Starlight as a blatant Writer’s Pet, which I do to, but I honestly didn’t think such a thing would happen alone if Hasbro wasn’t involved with any of the initial Starlight writer pet-esque love.
 
I’d like to hear more of your opinion on the subject. The issue of course is that since we get very little hard info of the conversations between Hasbro and the Writers, a lot of it tends to be guesswork. But then again, I’ll admit that the Writer/Hasbro relationship is not my area of expertise, so if you could reply to me or message me on Starlight’s connection to Hasbro and Starlight’s relationship with the writers, that would be fantastic.
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@CronoM  
Twilight > Starlight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sci-Twi. I don’t care Sunset, the human 5, Flash, Timber, etc. Because EG only a 1% of show potential.
CronoM

@ChuymaruZ  
I feel the same way.
 
To be honest, I kind of got my hopes up with episodes like Twilight trying out new hairstyles, her self exploration in Amending Fences, and when Discord held inside jokes from Twilight for long enough for Twilight to actually express her personal emotions. While not all those episodes were winners, they were still signs that Twilight might be trying to express herself beyond handed down motivations from Celestia and her few minor preferences. But with Starlight’s reformation arc and other big issues with Starlight’s involvement, all that potential never resurfaced and Sci-Twi honestly feels more like Twilight Sparkle as a full character then pony twilight, and quite a bit more likable
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@CronoM  
Like I only give a tenth of my attention to EG if we compare to the show. I don’t care if Starlight or Human SG appears or not in EG. I’m happy with her role in the show and I hope a lot active ones at season 8. I only wait how Sci Twi and Timber relationship will show us.
CronoM

@Evil Emperor Proteus  
Maybe, but its a gambit to include another Starlight since pony Starlight has already been introduced into the EG canon.
 
For one thing, even if human Starlight is far better written and more naturally written, it would still feel like just another Sunset wannabe. Oversaturating the reformed unicorn/human unicorn plot is risky, the original may have been well done in EG2 since she is Twilight’s senpai and Celestia’s original student, making it easier to understand her significance in the overall story and Celestia’s character. Princess Twilight has her own issues being credited for everything the other 5 do during many occasions, which was why it was a great choice on the writers part to make Sci Twi most definitely Twilight Sparkle, but completely different thematically.
 
Plus, if Human Starlight really IS better written then Pony Twilight, then that not only increase the importance of Starlight’s existence, but at the same time it might have the watchers wish the pony Twilight was as good a character as the Human one.
 
(shrug) I don’t know. One good thing from the theme and dialogue of the EG #3 special, is that it seemed like they had no intention of having a 2nd Starlight steal the show the same way the 1st Starlight did. Just pony Starlight, even if its very divisive when she does it.
CronoM

@Alexlayer  
We can only hope that whichever Hasbro Exec that masturbates to Starlight Glimmer every hour on the hour can be reigned in when discussing plans for the EG series. I know the writers have let the show’s ratings plummet in the last 2 years, but a few of them have to still care about quality and/or money.
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🔥Sunset is best girl🔥
there’s no practical way to make her more important than the main characters in the EG’s series as well
 
if you just jinxed this i’mma be mad.