Nice, nerd ponies throwing shade on the old man. Fucking amazing.

Sunburst a villain ??. It’s like saying that Twilight is a villain for leaving Moon dancer.

@Starswirl  
That’s why I tacked on the “it’s a dick move regardless” bit at the end.

@Darth Sonic  
Well, it nearly resulted in a disaster because Sunset Shimmer brought Equestrian magic to the human world. The Sirens were just powerful enough to get people to argue and little else before that.

@Revenant Wings
 
I’m still laughing at how there’s like 4 different tags to refer to OG Sombra, Mirrorbra, Bad Mirrorbra, and Good OG Sombra.

@Darth Sonic  
Yes, I am. But to search anything about him it’s under “good king Sombra”, so I started calling him that.

@Revenant Wings  
… Please tell me you’re talking about Mirror Sombra?
 
@Background Pony #CF97  
Still, Starswirl just dumping them off on humanity nearly resulted in disaster. An it’s a dick move regardless.

@Background Pony #CF97  
Yeah… The comics are fun but I mainly go by show canon now.
 
Except I like Good King Sombra.

Following that logic Sunburst is the responsible for every bad thing Starlight ever did. And since she was the more competent and successful antagonist, that means Sunburst is a bigger villain than Starswirl.

@Darth Sonic  
if that’s even Canon anymore– they Retconned the Fiendship for the sirens as being completely wrong, and they’ll be Probably retconning sombra’s too since he’s the S9 premier villain  
I wouldn’t be surprised if they have a new origin for the changelings in the works to wrap up chrysalis’s plot.

I think there’s way too many creatures intentionally vying for that spot for one cheesedip wizard to get it by accident.

@Background Pony #CF97
 
They aren’t being serious.

Starswirl a villain that’s intresting

@Background Pony #CF97  
Also he created the Changelings, so…

@Background Pony #CF97  
OK, no, that last one is legit. He should have just killed them, not just dump them on humanity where they nearly took over and would have came back with tanks, guns, and nuclear weaponry. Starswirl FUCKED UP.

Starswirl evil? That’s an interesting idea to explore.

>luna turns evil of her own accord  
ITS STARSWIRL’S FAULT!  
>Go insane and try and accomplish vague and ill defined evil, causing you to be banished via a heroic sacrifice  
He exiled you and that’s terrible!  
>banish power hungry energy vampires instead of trying to get them to sit down and talk, despite no indication that they have could have peaceful intentions of anykind  
TERRIBLE!
 
 
Sorry, but this is just plain stupid. blaming starswirl for not being omnipotent and omniscent while whitewashing fault from stygian and the sirens is just way too much.

@Ari Ardwolf  
Depends, really. Starswirl himself may not be a villain due to good intentions and no way of knowing how it’d turn out. I mean, technically the land had peace for 1000 years due to his actions; and while it may have been a stroke of luck, the 1000 year difference coincided with the formation of the exactly necessary group of ponies that allowed for the final defeat of relatively-contained villains. The miscounting of the Elements of Harmony is certainly a fatal flaw, but I don’t think enough to make him an outright villain.

@Starswirl  
Honestly, I don’t even consider the comics that much cannon. I mean, the continuity errors are so many, it’s impossible to see them as cannon. Heck, the show itself is having trouble keeping up with it’s lore.

@Ari Ardwolf  
Apparently, in the comic’s morality, trying to do the right thing and not doing it perfectly (the Sirens were defeated in the end because they didn’t have their full power from the start) is worse than trying to spread misery and torment.

If only Stygian wasn’t such a beta nightmare moon tragedy would never happen

@Starswirl  
What’s worse? I villain that sets out on a single evil goal, or a pony who sets in motion many evil goals over his lifetime?

@Starswirl  
No, but your incompetence led to much more than he did.

@Ari Ardwolf  
Like I said, I didn’t set out to make ponies miserable. Stygian did. But I guess he gets a pass because he was so incompetent at it.

@Starswirl  
You created the Changelings by “Accident”, you sent powerful beings to another realm void of magic, and your poor role-modeling led to the downfall and corruption of Luna. Shall I go on?