Oh i get it now… one apple everyday scares doctor away XD

@Master5eekr  
Thanks a bunch <3

Possibly the cutest art style I have ever seen. Even just seeing this in passing immediately cheers me up, same as any of their other artwork. Truly amazing stuff!

@VanillaGhosties
 
wow, thanks! you have a great attitude, and I wish you the best of luck.

@VanillaGhosties  
Great job on taking it so well. I used to be like that with my writing, lol, but sadly that seems to have changed…
 
But your rendering is fantastic.

@Cirrus Light
 
@redweasel
 
@Swegmeiser
 
 
Hadn’t seen this before, but thank you all a ton for the constructive feedback- I really appreciate it. You’re right, my anatomy could definitely use some work, and it’s always a big help when people point out my mistakes because even if they’re obvious to everyone else, I sometimes have a hard time seeing the issues for myself. I haven’t put enough time into developing my fundamentals, for both ponies and art in general, and I’m kinda paying up for that now- it’s late, but I understand the importance of having a solid foundation, and I’ve been going back to the basics recently to reteach myself all that good stuff. Learning drawing itself doesn’t seem to come as naturally to me as figuring out how to color/render, but I’m working through it and I just gotta give it some more time and practice. Thanks again!

Pls do not buli the poni.

Either way, Nurse Redheart is undoubtedly the cutest nurse that ever was.

@redweasel  
The “super low contrast” is in reference to a different picture that was linked as an example of art that had good anatomy but other failings.

@Cirrus Light
 
>super low contrast
 
huh? she’s very clearly shaded, and there’s sharp contrast between her and the cabinet.
 
>a little extra work on anatomy would go a long way at this point.
 
well, yeah. if you look at the artist’s other work they have pretty good anatomy, just a little odd error that slips in here and there. this was probably just a weird pose with an error they didn’t notice until they were finished. they could definitely work on anatomy a lot more than painting.

@Background Pony #B471  
Obviously there’s something slightly off with the hind leg. But I’ve also seen far more egregious violations of anatomy in art.
 
@Cirrus Light  
You did admit before you personally are one for detail. And the flaw is definitely more obvious in your example than it is in the post at any rate. Also, it would seem most people were willing to look past it, judging by the faves, upvotes, and comments.

@cloudkicker108  
Oh, no, it’s just as obvious to me, if not even more obvious because of how she’s sitting.
 
The paint job, lighting, shading, expression, realism - I mean holy crap it’s so fantastic in so many ways.
 
But that one glaring flaw, man…

@cloudkicker108  
>not nearly as noticeable  
Wigger what are you smoking.  
I get what you’re sayingbut if you keep looking at it for a while, it just doesn’t look righteven people who aren’t articulate with anatomy should be able to tell that something is off.  
>:3

@Cirrus Light  
While the hind leg anatomy in this picture is somewhat odd, it’s not nearly as noticeable as in the example with Rarity you provided. Moreover, this image is so well done overall that I’m more than willing to overlook a small detail like that.

@Background Pony #0EC0  
@Background Pony #B51E  
Ah, yes, it’s not real horse anatomy. That totally justifies this.
 

 
She’s not a real horse.

Not a problem with this picture and these comments…But most of the images on Derpibooru…..

@Background Pony #0EC0  
People also forget that ponies in My Little Pony and real-life “ponies” (aka H o r s e s) are two completely different things.

Ya’ll look into this too deep. All I see is a cute poner who’s afraid of an appul.

@Background Pony #0EC0  
It looks way off to me. But I have practiced a bit with proper pastel pony anatomy. Nothing like artists who do stuff like this, but I have. I’d think maybe just seeing the show and poking around art would be enough for many fans to recognize this as off… since when have y’all ever seen a leg do this in the show?
 
Then again, I do also have a thing for paying attention to detail.

@Cirrus Light  
In this instance it’s only apparent to people who have studied equine anatomy. For myself, I could not tell anything was even wrong with it without all of these comments saying it’s wrong. It’s not nearly as glaring an issue as you claim, it only seems that way to you because you’re such an expert on the subject. For most of us, this looks perfectly normal; certainly better than some of the stuff the show’s thrown at us (see that screencap I posted to this thread earlier.)

@redweasel  
I mean, that picture with good anatomy has other more glaring issues, like super low color contrast on the pony so it’s hard to see the details.
 
And yeah, good pose with bad anatomy looks better than bad pose with good anatomy, but for something to look extremely good you need both.
 
Otherwise it becomes “you can’t unsee it” things that just really glaringly stands out in an otherwise great picture. Probably because it’s so otherwise good it’s easier to tell and you automatically hold it to higher standards.
 
Like, this artist is clearly incredibly good with painting. With how much time and effort they’ve put into training their skills, and making this picture, it’s always a little annoying when someone has clearly neglected something that takes relatively marginal effort for significant returns.
 
Like, maybe a year ago, this artist put in 300 hours to practicing their work with paint, for like a 10% increase in picture quality. But just like cumulatively 20 hours of practice on anatomy would make this picture like 30% better, and they’d still have like 280 hours for 9.3% increase in picture quality.
 
I used numbers to say, a little practice in something goes a very long way if you’re making pretty big mistakes.
 
But if you’re already very good at something, the same amount of practice does little, generally speaking.
 
He’s so very good with the picture in general, in many ways, but made a (relatively) big mistake in anatomy. So it’s like a little extra work on anatomy would go a long way at this point.
 
Having an Achilles heel like that is a bit frustrating (just ask Achilles).
 
It’s like a weak link, or the slowest guy holding the group back, but he’s a lot slower than anyone else (the metaphorical person is the anatomy in this piece, not the artist, lol).
 
That’s what’s kinda frustrating about artists who make anatomy mistakes like that. And especially because it’s one of the few things in art where the quality is so apparent and objective.
 
 
@Swegmeiser  
Actually I kinda like your edit better.
 
How the leg goes in that way depends on how far her body is twisted. The tail would seem to indicate it’s twisted pretty far, so I don’t think Redweasel’s is quite far back enough.

@redweasel  
I suppose expression is a better driver than trying to reach perfection. Damn.
 
Thanks for the convos. I don’t get to exercise my mind too often.  
I’m going on a fishing trip soonwish me luckgunna catch me a big one

@Swegmeiser
 
well thanks, and I do think you’re right that good anatomy is really pleasing to the eye. I do disagree though, in that it’s acceptable to me for an artist to have a weak artistic foundation. there is no one true path to becoming a good artist, after all. it’s true you can accidentally train yourself wrong if you just try to jump to drawing good as opposed to learning how. and you can get stuck in a rut, when you can’t see what you need to improve.
 
but I’ve honestly seen more artists use emotion and expression as a solid base, then develop the anatomy skills as they progress. it happens a lot for comic artists… at least the good ones. having a wonderful character or location you’ve only been able to draw in crude sketches can help motivate you to learn how to draw better.
 
anyway I think vanillaghosties is gonna be fine, and if not, it’s definitely not your fault. you gave really good advice, even if I decided to nitpick about it a little.

@redweasel  
I never said that you should sacrifice expression for anatomy, I was saying that good anatomy can help a painting look more believable and aesthetically pleasing. Clearly, a piece that is comprised solely of proper anatomy would only serve as a potential template for future art. Judging by the placement of your bone lines you agree with me on the general placement of the leg. I do like where you put the new line for above the knee, I see now all that needed to be done was to bring the original line closer to the spine and you definitely did that. I also agree that there is always room for improvement, my problem with you is you seem to think that it is acceptable to have a weak artistic foundation and that when making an “amazing” art piece, we should not suggest better methods of capturing the physicality of a pony.
 
Please know that I mean no aggression towards you, but I feel rather passionate about this. I hope you understand.
 
TL;DR: You made the superior edit, I think the standards for art have fallen, I believe in building a solid base before making emotion-evoking artwork.

@Swegmeiser
 
sacrificing expression for the sake of anatomy is exactly what makes artists draw ponies that are wooden and boring. there’s no question that this artist didn’t do it right, but don’t counsel them to change it to something that is also wrong. good anatomy is very important, and ignoring it can ruin a good piece of art, but amazing art can have bad anatomy, and art with correct anatomy can still have… room for improvement.
 
anyway I was just thinking something like this: